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From Mark Hamstra <m...@clearstorydata.com>
Subject Re: Spark 2.0.0-preview artifacts still not available in Maven
Date Mon, 06 Jun 2016 15:00:35 GMT
This is not a Databricks vs. The World situation, and the fact that some
persist in forcing every issue into that frame is getting annoying.  There
are good engineering and project-management reasons not to populate the
long-term, canonical repository of Maven artifacts with what are known to
be severely compromised builds of limited usefulness, particularly over
time.  It is a legitimate dispute over whether these preview artifacts
should be deployed to Maven Central, not one that must be seen as
Databricks seeking improper advantage.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 5:34 AM, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 2016-06-04 18:42 (-0400), Sean Owen <sowen@cloudera.com> wrote:
> ...
> > The question is, can you just not fully release it? I don't think so,
> > even as a matter of process, and don't see a good reason not to.
> >
> > To Reynold's quote, I think that's suggesting that not all projects
> > will release to a repo at all (e.g. OpenOffice?). I don't think it
> > means you're free to not release some things to Maven, if that's
> > appropriate and common for the type of project.
> >
> > Regarding risk, remember that the audience for Maven artifacts are
> > developers, not admins or end users. I understand that developers can
> > temporarily change their build to use a different resolver if they
> > care, but, why? (and, where would someone figure this out?)
> >
> > Regardless: the 2.0.0-preview docs aren't published to go along with
> > the source/binary releases. Those need be released to the project
> > site, though probably under a different /preview/ path or something.
> > If they are, is it weird that someone wouldn't find the release in the
> > usual place in Maven then?
> >
> > Given that the driver of this was concern over wide access to
> > 2.0.0-preview, I think it's best to err on the side openness vs some
> > theoretical problem.
>
> The mere fact that there continues to be repeated pushback from PMC
> members employed by DataBricks to such a reasonable and easy question to
> answer and take action on for the benefit of all the project's users
> raises red flags for me.
>
> Immaterial of the actual motivations of individual PMC members, this
> still gives the *appearance* that DataBricks as an organization
> effectively exercises a more than healthy amount of control over how the
> project operates in simple, day-to-day manners.
>
> I strongly urge everyone participating in Apache Spark development to
> read and take to heart this required policy for Apache projects:
>
>   http://community.apache.org/projectIndependence
>
> - Shane, speaking as an individual
>
> (If I were speaking in other roles I hold, I wouldn't be as polite)
>
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