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From Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl>
Subject Re: Google Summer of Code 2017 is coming
Date Fri, 03 Feb 2017 23:19:53 GMT
Thanks Sean. You've again been very helpful to put the right tone to
the matters. I stand corrected and have no interest in GSoC anymore.

Pozdrawiam,
Jacek Laskowski
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Sean Owen <sowen@cloudera.com> wrote:
> I have a contrarian opinion on GSoC from experience many years ago in
> Mahout. Of 3 students I interacted with, 2 didn't come close to completing
> the work they signed up for. I think it's mostly that students are hungry
> for the resumé line item, and don't understand the amount of work they're
> proposing, and ultimately have little incentive to complete their proposal.
> The stipend is small.
>
> I can appreciate the goal of GSoC but it makes more sense for projects that
> don't get as much attention, and Spark gets plenty. I would not expect
> students to be able to be net contributors to a project like Spark. The time
> they consume in hand-holding will exceed the time it would take for someone
> experienced to just do the work. I would caution anyone from agreeing to
> this for Spark unless they are willing to devote 5-10 hours per week for the
> summer to helping someone learn.
>
> My net experience with GSoC is negative, mostly on account of the
> participants.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:56 PM Holden Karau <holden@pigscanfly.ca> wrote:
>>
>> As someone who did GSoC back in University I think this could be a good
>> idea if there is enough interest from the PMC & I'd be willing the help
>> mentor if that is a bottleneck.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Jacek Laskowski <jacek@japila.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is this something Spark considering? Would be nice to mark issues as
>>> GSoC in JIRA and solicit feedback. What do you think?
>>>
>>> Pozdrawiam,
>>> Jacek Laskowski
>>> ----
>>> https://medium.com/@jaceklaskowski/
>>> Mastering Apache Spark 2.0 https://bit.ly/mastering-apache-spark
>>> Follow me at https://twitter.com/jaceklaskowski
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Ulrich Stärk <uli@apache.org>
>>> Date: Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:50 PM
>>> Subject: Google Summer of Code 2017 is coming
>>> To: mentors@community.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello PMCs (incubator Mentors, please forward this email to your
>>> podlings),
>>>
>>> Google Summer of Code [1] is a program sponsored by Google allowing
>>> students to spend their summer
>>> working on open source software. Students will receive stipends for
>>> developing open source software
>>> full-time for three months. Projects will provide mentoring and
>>> project ideas, and in return have
>>> the chance to get new code developed and - most importantly - to
>>> identify and bring in new committers.
>>>
>>> The ASF will apply as a participating organization meaning individual
>>> projects don't have to apply
>>> separately.
>>>
>>> If you want to participate with your project we ask you to do the
>>> following things as soon as
>>> possible but by no later than 2017-02-09:
>>>
>>> 1. understand what it means to be a mentor [2].
>>>
>>> 2. record your project ideas.
>>>
>>> Just create issues in JIRA, label them with gsoc2017, and they will
>>> show up at [3]. Please be as
>>> specific as possible when describing your idea. Include the
>>> programming language, the tools and
>>> skills required, but try not to scare potential students away. They
>>> are supposed to learn what's
>>> required before the program starts.
>>>
>>> Use labels, e.g. for the programming language (java, c, c++, erlang,
>>> python, brainfuck, ...) or
>>> technology area (cloud, xml, web, foo, bar, ...) and record them at [5].
>>>
>>> Please use the COMDEV JIRA project for recording your ideas if your
>>> project doesn't use JIRA (e.g.
>>> httpd, ooo). Contact dev@community.apache.org if you need assistance.
>>>
>>> [4] contains some additional information (will be updated for 2017
>>> shortly).
>>>
>>> 3. subscribe to mentors@community.apache.org; restricted to potential
>>> mentors, meant to be used as a
>>> private list - general discussions on the public
>>> dev@community.apache.org list as much as possible
>>> please). Use a recognized address when subscribing (@apache.org or one
>>> of your alias addresses on
>>> record).
>>>
>>> Note that the ASF isn't accepted as a participating organization yet,
>>> nevertheless you *have to*
>>> start recording your ideas now or we will not get accepted.
>>>
>>> Over the years we were able to complete hundreds of projects
>>> successfully. Some of our prior
>>> students are active contributors now! Let's make this year a success
>>> again!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Uli
>>>
>>> P.S.: Except for the private parts (label spreadsheet mostly), this
>>> email is free to be shared
>>> publicly if you want to.
>>>
>>> [1] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
>>> [2] http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html
>>> [3] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2017ideas
>>> [4] http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html
>>> [5] http://s.apache.org/gsoclabels
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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