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From Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: apache spark on gitter?
Date Mon, 16 May 2016 13:46:36 GMT
We'll have to be careful to not present this as an official project
chat, since it's not affiliated. Even calling it
apache-spark.slack.com is potentially problematic since it gives some
impression it's from the ASF.

Ideally, call this something that is unambiguously not related to
Apache itself, even as it is possible to make it clear it does refer
to Apache Spark.

Since this has come up in recent memory, I have a good link handy for
the interested:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Paweł Szulc <paul.szulc@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've just created https://apache-spark.slack.com
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Paweł Szulc <paul.szulc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> well I guess the advantage of gitter over maling list is the same as with
>> IRC. It's not actually a replacer because mailing list is also important.
>> But it is lot easier to build a community around tool with ad-hoc ability to
>> connect with each other.
>>
>> I have gitter running on constantly, I visit my favorite OSS projects on
>> it from time to time to read what has recently happened. It allows me to
>> stay in touch with the project, help fellow developers to with problems they
>> have.
>> One might argue that u can achive the same with mailing list, well it's
>> hard for me to put this into words.. Malinig list is more of an async nature
>> (which is good!) but some times you need more "real-time" experience. You
>> know, engage in the conversation in the given moment, not conversation that
>> might last few days :)
>>
>> TLDR: It is not a replacement, it's supplement to build the community
>> around OSS. Worth having for real-time conversations.
>>
>> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Xinh Huynh <xinh.huynh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Pawel,
>>>
>>> I'd like to hear more about your idea. Could you explain more why you
>>> would like to have a gitter channel? What are the advantages over a mailing
>>> list (like this one)? Have you had good experiences using gitter on other
>>> open source projects?
>>>
>>> Xinh
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Sean Owen <sowen@cloudera.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't know of a gitter channel and I don't use it myself, FWIW. I
>>>> think anyone's welcome to start one.
>>>>
>>>> I hesitate to recommend this, simply because it's preferable to have
>>>> one place for discussion rather than split it over several, and, we
>>>> have to keep the @spark.apache.org mailing lists as the "forums of
>>>> records" for project discussions.
>>>>
>>>> If something like gitter doesn't attract any chat, then it doesn't add
>>>> any value. If it does though, then suddenly someone needs to subscribe
>>>> to user@ and gitter to follow all of the conversations.
>>>>
>>>> I think there is a bit of a scalability problem on the user@ list at
>>>> the moment, just because it covers all of Spark. But adding a
>>>> different all-Spark channel doesn't help that.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway maybe that's "why"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Paweł Szulc <paul.szulc@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > no answer, but maybe one more time, a gitter channel for spark users
>>>> > would
>>>> > be a good idea!
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Paweł Szulc <paul.szulc@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I was wondering - why Spark does not have a gitter channel?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Regards,
>>>> >> Paul Szulc
>>>> >>
>>>> >> twitter: @rabbitonweb
>>>> >> blog: www.rabbitonweb.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Paul Szulc
>>>> >
>>>> > twitter: @rabbitonweb
>>>> > blog: www.rabbitonweb.com
>>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Paul Szulc
>>
>> twitter: @rabbitonweb
>> blog: www.rabbitonweb.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Paul Szulc
>
> twitter: @rabbitonweb
> blog: www.rabbitonweb.com

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