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From Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Stratos for Graduation?
Date Tue, 01 Apr 2014 14:04:28 GMT
Fair enough Ant! :) Hadn't put the dates together like that. So thanks!

On 1 April 2014 15:46, ant elder <ant.elder@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jims request to wait with no detail about why is a little unusual. He's
> asked to wait till after ApacheCon which means after April 9. The graduation
> decision happens at board meetings, the next of those is on April 16. Before
> then there would usually be a podling vote and then an Incubator PMC vote.
> So there is time to hold the two votes before the board meeting, but not
> much spare time, and waiting till after ApacheCon would mean missing the
> next board meeting. While i don't think there needs to be any rush i also
> don't see any problem if the podling decides to go ahead now starting first
> vote on the resolution proposal/chair/membership while waiting to find out
> more about what Jims concerns might be.
>
>    ...ant
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Suresh, are you not going to wait for Jim to clarify his perspective?
>>
>> On 1 April 2014 14:32, Suresh Marru <smarru@apache.org> wrote:
>> > Catching up fully with this thread, I think its time for starting a PPMC
>> > vote. I will wait for end of today to see any further open ended concerns,
>> > if not I will start a vote if no one else beats me by then.
>> >
>> > Suresh
>> >
>> > On Mar 26, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Paul Fremantle <paul@wso2.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Noah
>> >>
>> >> My apologies.
>> >>
>> >> Removed any names
>> >>
>> >>    Establish the Apache Stratos Project
>> >>
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>> >>        interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>> >>        Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>> >>        Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
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>> >>        the public, related to providing an implementation of a
>> >>        Platform-as-a-Service Framework.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> >>        Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Stratos Project",
>> >>        be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> >>        Foundation; and be it further
>> >>
>> >>        RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby is
>> >>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>> >>        related to providing an implementation of a
>> >> Platform-as-a-Service
>> >>        Framework; and be it further
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>        RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Stratos" be
>> >>        and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>> >>        serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>> >>        of the Apache Stratos Project, and to have primary
>> >> responsibility
>> >>        for management of the projects within the scope of
>> >>        responsibility of the Apache Stratos Project; and be it further
>> >>
>> >>        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> >>        hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> >>        Apache Stratos Project:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXXXXXXX
>> >>        be appointed to the office of Vice President, Stratos, to
>> >>        serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>> >>        Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>> >>        death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>> >>        or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>> >>
>> >>        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Stratos PMC be and hereby is
>> >>        tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>> >>        encourage open development and increased participation in the
>> >>        Apache Stratos Project; and be it further
>> >>
>> >>        RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby
>> >>        is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>> >>        Incubator Stratos podling; and be it further
>> >>
>> >>        RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>> >>        Incubator Stratos podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>> >>        Project are hereafter discharged.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Paul
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 26 March 2014 17:13, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> As Chip points out, it is premature to include anybody's name here
>> >> yet, even provisionally. It should be removed from the draft, and a
>> >> separate discussion started privately to address that topic.
>> >>
>> >> On 26 March 2014 16:33, Paul Fremantle <paul@wso2.com> wrote:
>> >> > Updated proposal with the new wording. I've also provisionally put
>> >> > Lakmal's
>> >> > name in place as VP.
>> >> >
>> >> > Paul
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >        Establish the Apache Stratos Project
>> >> >
>> >> >        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> >> >        interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>> >> >        Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>> >> >        Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> >> >        open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>> >> >        the public, related to providing an implementation of a
>> >> >        Platform-as-a-Service Framework.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> >> >        Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Stratos Project",
>> >> >        be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> >> >        Foundation; and be it further
>> >> >
>> >> >        RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby is
>> >> >        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>> >> >        related to providing an implementation of a
>> >> > Platform-as-a-Service
>> >> >        Framework; and be it further
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >        RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Stratos" be
>> >> >        and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>> >> >        serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>> >> >        of the Apache Stratos Project, and to have primary
>> >> > responsibility
>> >> >        for management of the projects within the scope of
>> >> >        responsibility of the Apache Stratos Project; and be it
>> >> > further
>> >> >
>> >> >        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> >> >        hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> >> >        Apache Stratos Project:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Lakmal
>> >> > Warusawithana
>> >> >
>> >> >        be appointed to the office of Vice President, Stratos, to
>> >> >        serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>> >> >        Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>> >> >        death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>> >> >        or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>> >> >
>> >> >        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Stratos PMC be and hereby
is
>> >> >        tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>> >> >        encourage open development and increased participation in the
>> >> >        Apache Stratos Project; and be it further
>> >> >
>> >> >        RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby
>> >> >        is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>> >> >        Incubator Stratos podling; and be it further
>> >> >
>> >> >        RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>> >> >        Incubator Stratos podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>> >> >        Project are hereafter discharged.
>> >> >
>> >> > Paul
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 26 March 2014 15:04, Chip Childers <chipchilders@apache.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Paul Fremantle <paul@wso2.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Chip
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I tried to get round your concern with the phrase PaaS foundation.
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > guess
>> >> >> > an alternative would be PaaS framework?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Paul
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "framework" seems like it might be best (IMO)...  the term's a
bit
>> >> >> overused, but it's probably a bit better understood than just
>> >> >> "foundation".
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Paul Fremantle
>> >> > CTO and Co-Founder, WSO2
>> >> > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair, Apache Member
>> >> >
>> >> > UK: +44 207 096 0336
>> >> > US: +1 646 595 7614
>> >> >
>> >> > blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org
>> >> > twitter.com/pzfreo
>> >> > paul@wso2.com
>> >> >
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>> >> Noah Slater
>> >> https://twitter.com/nslater
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Paul Fremantle
>> >> CTO and Co-Founder, WSO2
>> >> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair, Apache Member
>> >>
>> >> UK: +44 207 096 0336
>> >> US: +1 646 595 7614
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