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From "Maturo, Larry" <>
Subject RE: Traffic
Date Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:27:12 GMT
I do have to mention that often
times if you understood the answer
you would not need to ask the question. :-)

I think that telling people to search the 
archives is a good idea if we know for
sure that they contain an example of 
how to solve the question asked.  However,
a lot of time the answers are generalities,
which causes the asker to have to ask
again and again and again.  If we could
make sure are answers are in the form
of examples, we would undoubtedly cut down
on traffic in the news group.  Just over
the past week I have seen Cool Dude ask
the same question, it seems, like 4 times.

My two cents worth, not a flame.

-- Larry Maturo

-----Original Message-----
From: []
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Traffic

I really do agree that users of the mailing list should be *strongly*
to search the archives (maybe just with STA, though, so they don't get too
offended!).  Sooooo many questions come up that have been tackled over and
again.  I was off for a week last week and had almost 900 messages in my
to delete, which is crazy.


"Galbreath, Mark" <> on 02/12/2002
07:27:17 AM

Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"

To:   "'Struts Users Mailing List'"
cc:    (bcc: David Hay/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject:  RE: Traffic

It's going to get worse.  Nevertheless, you will never be able to manage the
number/technical level of users in an open forum.  SERVLET-INTEREST became
too congested with basic setup and config questions by people too lazy to
search the archive for an answer (and how many scores of questions have been
asked here regarding ActionForm in just the past 2 weeks?) so a few guys
created ADVANCED-SERVLET-INTEREST and began regulating the level of users.

One thing that helped, however, was being brutally blunt with obviously lame
users and telling them to STFA (search the f*cking archives), STFW (...web)
and RTFM.  This started a couple of flame wars, and the Sun moderator
finally had to banish a few people, but the quality and quantity of posts
changed considerably for the better.

I'm not suggesting that's an answer, but my delete key has been getting a
lot of attention lately....


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 9:36 PM

Well, it's not dibilitating. I can hack it.  I guess I'm neutral on this

- Cody

"Barr, Scott [IBM GSA]" <> on 02/11/2002
08:01:41 PM

I disagree. Most messages are relatively small, and so long as people dont
send attachments there generally isn't too much of a problem.
The delete key is a great filter :)


> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> Sent:   Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:28 PM
> I second that motion.  We do not have filtering capability here at my work
> so I have to manually delete messages!
> - Cody
> Mark Rines <> on 02/11/2002 07:19:43 PM
> Phew,
> I vote that we split up this mail list into several topics such as
> installation, configuration, add-ons (such as strutsTests) and extending
> the
> various ActionXXX classes. I am really having trouble keeping up with all
> (over 110 just today) the email.
> Mark

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