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From "Malcolm Davis" <malc...@nuearth.com>
Subject RE: EJB = bad = MS.net
Date Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:19:08 GMT
I think I was better off not sending that last email,
especially on a Friday.  :)
Thanks for educationÂ…

- Malcolm

  >> -----Original Message-----
  >> From: rjwms@compuserve.com
  >> [mailto:rjwms@compuserve.com]
  >> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:09 PM
  >> To: Struts Users Mailing List
  >> Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net
  >>
  >>
  >> TGIF
  >> ----- Original Message -----
  >> From: "Cakalic, James" <James.Cakalic@heybridge.com>
  >> To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'"
  >> <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
  >> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:02 PM
  >> Subject: RE: EJB = bad = MS.net
  >>
  >>
  >> >
  >> > == Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
  >> >
  >> > > -----Original Message-----
  >> > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:Galbreath@tessco.com]
  >> > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:57 PM
  >> > > To: 'Wes Bramhall '; ''Struts Users Mailing List' '
  >> > > Subject: RE: EJB = bad = MS.net
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > >  ROTFLMAO!
  >> > >
  >> > > Mark
  >> > >
  >> > > -----Original Message-----
  >> > > From: Wes Bramhall
  >> > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
  >> > > Sent: 2/22/02 2:52 PM
  >> > > Subject: RE: EJB = bad = MS.net
  >> > >
  >> > > But it's Friday now, so SSS is allowed, right?
  >> > >
  >> > > (SSS = Small Scale Spamming)
  >> > >
  >> > > -----Original Message-----
  >> > > From: Eddie Bush [mailto:ekbush@swbell.net]
  >> > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:45 PM
  >> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
  >> > > Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > > I thought we had abandoned this thread in
  >> favor of Struts related
  >> > > questions
  >> > > =)
  >> > >
  >> > > ----- Original Message -----
  >> > > From: "David Smith" <dns4@cornell.edu>
  >> > > To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
  >> <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
  >> > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:41 PM
  >> > > Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net
  >> > >
  >> > >
  >> > > > I'm staying out of this discussion, but
  >> to answer your question --
  >> > > >
  >> > > > IMNSHO = In My Not So Humble Opinion
  >> > > >
  >> > > > --David
  >> > > >
  >> > > > On Friday 22 February 2002 01:03 pm, you wrote:
  >> > > > > IMNSHO?  What the hell is that?  Man,
  >> the colloquial shortcuts are
  >> > > getting
  >> > > > > hairy these days.... :)
  >> > > > >
  >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
  >> > > > > From: Edward Q. Bridges
  >> [mailto:e.bridges@argo-tec.de]
  >> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:15 AM
  >> > > > > To: dIon Gillard; Struts Users Mailing List
  >> > > > > Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net
  >> > > > >
  >> > > > >
  >> > > > > "location independence" means
  >> independent of location,
  >> > > that is all.
  >> > > > >
  >> > > > > if you're implementing two interfaces
  >> to do (more or
  >> > > less) the exact
  >> > > same
  >> > > > > thing, and one is called "local" and
  >> one is called
  >> > > "remote" that is
  >> > > > > absolutely *not*, by any stretch of
  >> the imagination,  "location
  >> > > > > independent". _end of story_.
  >> > > > >
  >> > > > > with EJBs the method call does not
  >> "appear" to be remote,
  >> > > because it
  >> > > is
  >> > > > > *explicitly* remote.  the method is in
  >> a "RemoteInterface" and
  >> > > throws a
  >> > > > > "RemoteException" for crying out loud!
  >> > > > >
  >> > > > > furthermore, it's not about box1 vs
  >> box12.  to be more
  >> > > precise, it's
  >> > > about
  >> > > > > vm1 vs. vm12.  and, if you are writing
  >> a client, your client has
  >> > > business
  >> > > > > logic to take care of.  it's the
  >> servers responsibility
  >> > > to determine
  >> > > > > whether it should call a method at vm1
  >> or at vm12.
  >> > > > >
  >> > > > > IMNSHO, this is the achilles heel of EJB.
  >> > > > >
  >> > > > > --e--
  >> > > > >
  >> > > > > On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 05:24:22 +1100,
  >> dIon Gillard wrote:
  >> > > > > >The method call can take place
  >> anywhere, but always appears to be
  >> > > > > >remote. That could be many remote
  >> machines though. Location
  >> > > independence
  >> > > > > >is not about local vs remote, it's
  >> more about box1 vs box12.
  >> > > >
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