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From Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <>
Subject RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
Date Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:59:42 GMT
You are out of date, Mark.  It is now vim.  Todays kids!

At 11:54 AM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
>I'm using 9iRC2 right now (well, not RIGHT now, but multitasking) coding a
>JSP and action class.  Overall, I think the IDE is pretty solid and since I
>use to use JBuilder 6.0, the learning curve was pretty steep.  I didn't have
>to RTFM to use it, and that's always a good sign that a product is intuitive
>to employ.  I have four gripes, however:
>1.  The application freezes unexpectedly (about once/day) and has to be
>killed manually.  This is  very annoying if I haven't remembered to save my
>code for the past 10 minutes or so.  This happened with RC1, too.
>2.  If you try to compile (ctrl + shift + F9) and get compile errors, then
>simply repeat the compile, the IDE log window reports a successful
>compilation, even though you know there are checked exceptions being thrown.
>3.  It's difficult to compile and run JSPs within the IDE.
>4.  The debugger does not appear to work (could be me...).
>I've used HomeSite 4.5, Forte 3.1EE, and J++ (for 1.1 code - it was the
>best), and I think JBuilder is on the right track to being one of the best.
>PS - you guys know I was just bullshitting you about using EMACS and vi.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Muench []
>Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:26 AM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
>With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door,
>we are feverishly working on new features for our next
>release (9.0.3).
>One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better
>environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
>source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
>work with relational databases.
>A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components
>for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as
>the Model layer of a Struts application.
>I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what
>troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
>JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
>fold that feedback into our next product version to
>polish any existing rough edges.
>Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author
>Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J
>Building Oracle XML Apps,
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