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From Cliff Rowley <cl...@onsea.net>
Subject RE: [OT Jokes] Are we getting off the topic
Date Thu, 29 Aug 2002 02:33:03 GMT
Yes, I think I agree.  I enjoy the banter - it takes away the hard edge
of internet communication, but there is a danger of the goal of the
struts-user list being undermined.  It should be made publicly aware
though, so that new subscribers to the struts-user list are aware of its
existence.

Shame about Friday :(

On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 03:07, Melissa L Kelley wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Jerry Jalenak wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> It almost made me think it was, which is nice now but will be terribly
> dissappointing when my alarm sounds tomorrow morning...
> 
> I was a little surprised when I could finally take time to skim through
> the Struts mail to find a long thread about a cartoon cucumber (not having
> kids, I had to look that up - it is good, huh?)
> 
> I would cast a vote for the separate mailing list. That has worked well
> for other lists that I've been on. Then the people who really hate seeing off
> topic posts don't even have to worry about getting filters set up
> correctly. I've even hosted a few small off-topic on my server just
> because it makes the on-topic list more pleasant once people got to know
> one another better.
> 
> 
> --Melissa (or Stu, or Emily)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --> stu: www.stuology.net
> It just no longer is plain simple safe fun
> when it's the psycho chimp that has the ray gun
> ------------------------------------------------
> Stuology -- A million monkeys can't be wrong
> 
> 
> > Probably. Is it friday?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brandon Goodin [mailto:mail@phase.ws]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:37 PM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: [OT Jokes] Are we getting off the topic
> > >
> > >
> > > Larry Boy and the Angry Eyebrow.. Very cool. But honestly.
> > > Are we just being
> > > mean now to continue this thread. THis a  good reason to have a
> > > struts-bs@apache.org.
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:Simon.Chappell@landsend.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:36 PM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: [OT Jokes] Are we getting off the topic
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm looking forward to that one being available on DVD! (We
> > > chose not to do
> > > the TV thing, so we watch stuff on DVD on the computer! :-)
> > >
> > > Rack, Shack and Benny is good! :-)
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Jerry Jalenak [mailto:Jerry.Jalenak@LABONE.com]
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:34 PM
> > > >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > >Subject: RE: [OT Jokes] Are we getting off the topic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >My bad.  Haven't watched "Rumor Weed" with my daughter for
> > > >awhile....  :-)
> > > >
> > > >Jerry
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Brandon Goodin [mailto:mail@phase.ws]
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:28 PM
> > > >> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > >> Subject: RE: [OT Jokes] Are we getting off the topic
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> actually is is:
> > > >> <larry-boy>
> > > >>  I AM THAT HERO!
> > > >> </larry-boy>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Jerry Jalenak [mailto:Jerry.Jalenak@LABONE.com]
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:28 PM
> > > >> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > >> Subject: RE: [OT Jokes] Are we getting off the topic
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> <larry-boy>
> > > >>
> > > >> 	I AM THAT SUPERHERO!
> > > >>
> > > >> </larry-boy>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> > > >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:30 PM
> > > >> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > >> > Subject: RE: [OT Jokes] Are we getting off the topic
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > But your a big strong superhero!!!!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > James Mitchell
> > > >> > Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> > > >> > Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> > > >> > http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > From: Jerry Jalenak [mailto:Jerry.Jalenak@LABONE.com]
> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 5:25 PM
> > > >> > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > >> > > Subject: RE: [OT Jokes] Are we getting off the topic
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Hasta la Vista, Weedy!
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> > > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:25 PM
> > > >> > > > To: struts-jokes@jakarta.apache.org
> > > >> > > > Cc: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > >> > > > Subject: RE: [OT Jokes] Are we getting off the topic
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > <nasal-voice>
> > > >> > > >  So did ya hear the one about Alfred?
> > > >> > > > </nasal-voice>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > James Mitchell
> > > >> > > > Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> > > >> > > > Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> > > >> > > > http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > From: Jerry Jalenak [mailto:Jerry.Jalenak@LABONE.com]
> > > >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 5:20 PM
> > > >> > > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > >> > > > > Subject: RE: Are we getting off the topic
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Isn't this entire thread OT?
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > From: Brandon Goodin [mailto:mail@phase.ws]
> > > >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:16 PM
> > > >> > > > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > >> > > > > > Subject: RE: Are we getting off the topic
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Excuse me but the joke List is over that
way --->
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > :-))
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Brandon
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > From: Jerry Jalenak [mailto:Jerry.Jalenak@LABONE.com]
> > > >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:16 PM
> > > >> > > > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > >> > > > > > Subject: RE: Are we getting off the topic
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > There's one in every crowd....
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > :-)
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Jerry
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> > > >> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:18
PM
> > > >> > > > > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > >> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Are we getting off the
topic
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > So when is 1.1 going to be released?
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > James Mitchell
> > > >> > > > > > > Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> > > >> > > > > > > Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer
Network"
> > > >> > > > > > > http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > > From: Dan Cancro [mailto:DCancro@bridgespan.com]
> > > >> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002
5:01 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > >> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Are we getting off
the topic
> > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > Google provides a directory of
groups.
> > > >> > > > > > http://www.google.com/grphp
> > > >> > > > > > > > Maybe it would be better to link
to such a
> > > >> > directory from the
> > > >> > > > > > > > struts mailing
> > > >> > > > > > > > list page.  Does anyone know a
better
> > > >> directory?  This one
> > > >> > > > > > > doesn't have
> > > >> > > > > > > > jakarta groups.
> > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > Dan
> > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > > > From: Brandon Goodin [mailto:mail@phase.ws]
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28,
2002 1:42 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Are we getting
off the topic
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > I suggest that someone open
an unofficial OT
> > > >board for
> > > >> > > > > > > > > struts. The beautiful
> > > >> > > > > > > > > thing about a community is
that it can be self
> > > >> > regulating.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > When someone post
> > > >> > > > > > > > > an off topic question. The
community
> > > should politely
> > > >> > > > > > > > > reccomend the OT board.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Brandon
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > > > From: wbchmura@Ensign-BickfordInd.com
> > > >> > > > > > > > > [mailto:wbchmura@Ensign-BickfordInd.com]
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28,
2002 2:45 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > > > To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Are we getting
off the topic
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Anyone have time to write
a NLP that would
> > > >> automatically
> > > >> > > > > > > respond to
> > > >> > > > > > > > > "when is the next version
of struts going to be
> > > >> > released"?
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > other than that, I agree on
the really obvious
> > > >> > > > questions, but
> > > >> > > > > > > > > how do we
> > > >> > > > > > > > > delinate what is pure struts
and just
> > > associated with
> > > >> > > > > > it?  If its
> > > >> > > > > > > > > assocaited with it isn't struts-user
the place
> > > >> > for it?  I
> > > >> > > > > > > don't have a
> > > >> > > > > > > > > good answer...
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > > > From: jconrad [mailto:jconrad@indigio.com]
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28,
2002 4:29 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > > > To: struts-user
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Are we getting
off the topic
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > I also agree STRONGLY. I'm
a newbie to
> > > Struts, when I
> > > >> > > > > > > signed onto the
> > > >> > > > > > > > > mailing list I read the article
how to ask a good
> > > >> > > > > > > question. Two keys
> > > >> > > > > > > > > were RTFM and STFW. So read,
then search, then ask.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > > > From: Tero P Paananen [mailto:tpp@viant.com]
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28,
2002 2:16 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Are we getting
off the topic
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > This board is too valuable
to me. Any thoughts?
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > Agree... Disagree....?
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Agree STRONGLY.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > There's a reason why I subscribe
to Struts
> > > >> mailing list
> > > >> > > > > > > > > and not to "General Java"
or "Tomcat Debug"
> > > >> > mailing list.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Furthermore, if people would
spend even 5
> > > >> minutes trying
> > > >> > > > > > > > > to search answers to their
questions using
> > > >> Google or the
> > > >> > > > > > > > > mailing list archives, many
of the
> > > questions wouldn't
> > > >> > > > > > > > > need to be asked in the first
place,
> > > because they've
> > > >> > > > > > > > > already been asked and answered
several times.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Have some consideration for
those of us who receive
> > > >> > > > > > > > > several hundred emails a day
and really do not have
> > > >> > > > > > > > > time to shift through all
the crap.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > 				-TPP
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> 
> 
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