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From "Jerry Jalenak" <>
Subject RE: [OT] Hibernate recommendation
Date Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:36:29 GMT

Just took a look at Hibernate and have a couple of questions.  Does this
replace the use of DataSource in struts-config?  Also, how does this play
with DynaBeans?  It looks like the MapGenerator tool would need ActionForms
to be able to generate its OR mapping....


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cliff Rowley []
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:50 AM
> To:
> Subject: [OT] Hibernate recommendation
> Greetings :)
> You know those days where everything is going right.  Everything is
> falling into place, and you just want to tell somebody.  
> Well, for me -
> today is one of those days - so I'm telling you about it :)
> Hibernate ( is the cause of my
> happiness, and IMHO it is the the best thing since sliced bread.  I've
> tried a billion and one persistence mechanisms and I have 
> found nothing
> so far that has pleased me so much.  It's fast, flexible and highly
> idiomatic - and doesn't pretend to be a whole O2R abstraction
> framework.  It's an O2R mapping tool (big difference) with a few
> _useful_ bells and whistles and doesn't try to hide the JDBC
> underneath.  If at any point you need to step out of your objectified
> view and dabble with some SQL, Hibernate will let you do that 
> - and play
> nicely with whatever you did.  It supports the usual suspects -
> including relationships, lazy loading and components - and some other
> nice features too, such as persistent Collections, 
> enumerations and JMX.
> And to top it off, the author is very clear, very quick at fixing bugs
> and implementing features, and very focused.  He is determined that
> Hibernate will not become a bloat but still remain fully featured, and
> thus far he has been successful.  If you don't believe me, 
> check out the
> forum, the code and the CVS commits.
> I've been using it for a couple of weeks now, and it's been 
> so good that
> I'd actually forgotten I was using it (persistence usually being my
> biggest headache) - and my application is as snappy as JDBC.
> That's it, I just thought I'd spread the word - after all that's how
> good tools get popular.  I searched the archives and only found one
> reference to Hibernate, so I thought I'd double its chances of getting
> recognised here :)
> Just in case you missed it -
> (P.S. I am not affiliated with Hibernate in any way)
> -- 
> Regards
> -------------------------------------------
>  Cliff Rowley        |
>  Software Engineer   |
>  +44 (0) 1206 514263 |
> -------------------------------------------
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