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From René Eigenheer <reigenh...@bridgesolutions.net>
Subject RE: Question for using struts as our standard MVC framework
Date Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:31:09 GMT
and I guess they write their own DBMS and operating system as well ;-)))
or do they even design the chips?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Khan, Manuchehar A (ACF) [mailto:mkhan@acf.hhs.gov]
> Sent: Donnerstag, 12. September 2002 00:32
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: Question for using struts as our standard MVC framework
> 
> 
> Thanks for input...You are right...Politics play more role here than
> technology and innovation. 
> I gave 2 hr presentation on pros and cons of framework 
> developed by one
> person as compare to people involved behind struts.   
> Opposition was struts
> is not tested or proven, what if jakarta abandon struts 
> project and we will
> become dependent on 3rd party tool.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:57 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Question for using struts as our standard MVC framework
> 
> 
> Sounds like a political argument more than anything else.
> 
> I could list 100 reasons to choose Struts, but it wouldn't 
> change the mind
> of someone who 'wants' to use what they have 
> built....especially if they
> have a long standing history as defending champion in the Vi(m)  vs.
> (X)Emacs debate.
> 
> I wish you luck in your endeavor.
> 
> 
> 
> James Mitchell
> Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> 
> P.S. Tell them to stop being so ignorant and pickup FUC#ING book.
> Hmmm....like the STRUTS book by Chuck Cavaness ;)
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Khan, Manuchehar A (ACF) [mailto:mkhan@acf.hhs.gov]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:37 AM
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: Question for using struts as our standard MVC framework
> >
> >
> > Hello Folks. I work for Govt and we have major policy 
> meeting for using
> > struts as our stantard framework.
> > One developer in our team took the Sun pet store example 
> and created a
> > framework that is basically a router/controller with xml
> > configuration files
> > to define handlers and views. And that controller works fine..
> > He claims that strut has not followed sun standards and 
> guidelines and
> > struts is not reliable. It can only support maximum 100 users and
> > next year
> > struts team is coming up with new version based in JSTL and 
> will trash all
> > releases.
> > I need some inputs from people here to make solid arguments for
> > changing to
> > struts.
> > Thanks...
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:34 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List; Dariusz Wojtas
> > Subject: RE: JDO example - rozpakowywac Commanderem
> >
> >
> > Was there a question in there I missed?
> >
> > James Mitchell
> > Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> > Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> > http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dariusz Wojtas [mailto:dwojtas@myrealbox.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:19 AM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: JDO example - rozpakowywac Commanderem
> > >
> > >
> > > Wednesday, September 11, 2002, 6:55:25 AM, you wrote:
> > > JM> Sorry for the delay.  I've decided to post this on 
> our website.
> > >
> > > JM> Please feel free to download and try it out.
> > >
> > > JM>
> > 
> http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta/downloads/DBMessageResources
> > >
> > > JM> If for some reason the site goes down, just send me an email
> > > and I'll get it
> > > JM> to you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > JM> James Mitchell
> > > JM> Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> > > JM> Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> > > JM> http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 3:06 PM
> > > >> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > >> Subject: [Announce] [New Extension]
> > > ApplicationResources.properties from
> > > >> Database
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> For anyone interested, I have finished implementing
> > DBMessageResources
> > > >> which allows you to keep the key-value pairs (from your
> > > >> ApplicationResources.properties) in a single database table.
> > > >>
> > > >> You can load your property files into a table (generic schema
> > > is provided)
> > > >> and with this extension, by only modifying 
> <message-resources> in the
> > > >> struts-config.xml your application will run WITHOUT ANY code
> > > changes. (See
> > > >> the readme.txt file included)
> > > >>
> > > >> This extension uses OJB (http://jakarta.apache.org/ojb) O/R
> > mapping for
> > > >> database configuration and connection pool management.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have included a modified version of the (1.1b2) 
> struts-example to
> > > >> demonstrate.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have tested this with Struts 1.1b2, and I'm sure it will
> > > work with 1.1b1
> > > >> (If anyone requires a 1.0.x compatible, I can look at 
> that also)
> > > >>
> > > >> I will get this project available as soon as I work 
> through some
> > > >> cvs issues
> > > >> on sf.net:
> > > >>
> > > >> If anyone is REALLY itching to get their hands on it sooner,
> > send me a
> > > >> email.
> > > >>
> > > >> For those who were waiting, thanks for your patience.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> James Mitchell
> > > >> Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> > > >> Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> > > >> http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > >
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> >
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