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From "Brian Hickey" <bhic...@r-effects.com>
Subject Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects
Date Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:08:52 GMT
And so do I... LISP isn't OO


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin A. Smith" <KevinA.Smith@sas.com>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects


Smalltalk, eh? I think that more than a few of the top Java names (Steele,
Gosling) have a Lispish background, too.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hickey [mailto:bhickey@r-effects.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:51 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List; andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com
Subject: Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects


More fodder...

The Amiga was the first machine and OS to use "flat" memory addressing. It
had the best graphics of its time.

As for WebObjects, it is one of the two branches of history that the top
(IMHO) Java developers come from. The other is Smalltalk.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Hill" <andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects


> ohhh now your asking for it!
>
> Meet the guru a few too many times did we? hehe
>
> Actually the OS was not too bad for the time. Pre-emtive multitasking,
gui,
> etc... (bit touchy though as it didnt have anything in the way of memory
> protection to stop different processes playing with memory that didnt
belong
> to them). And of course much of the magic of the Amiga was in its hardware
> which was marvellous for the time, and at the cost made it very much the
> premier games machine. (Also found a lot of use in TV production ,
> especially after the video toaster came out)
>
> And hey! I remember typing up some essays on my Amiga once so nyah! Wasnt
> used entirely for games. I must have spent at least five of the thousands
of
> hours I used it for serious stuff and anyway it had the best games so its
> little wonder gamers loved it :-P
>
> Useability of the Amiga was better than many systems (such as the ancient
> DOS boxes) , though certainly not to the same level as the MAC. Have to
> agree that one button is all you need. A second one can be useful at times
> (ie: paint software / cad / games etc...) but whoever came up with the
idea
> of context menus deserves a good flogging.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Kaye [mailto:mark@mkaye.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 20:00
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Hill [mailto:andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com]
> >
> > Ah
> > the good ol Amiga. A far more worthy home for the Motorola
> > 68000...
>
> Lol, just don't mention the OS or any kind of usability for the Amiga.
> Because it was dreadful.  Also, don't mention that 95% of them were used
> as games machines and nothing more ;)
>
> Macs only have one mouse button because that's all you need.  If you
> find you need more then you're using a clunky interface :)
>
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