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From "Galbreath, Mark" <Galbre...@tessco.com>
Subject RE: Question for using struts as our standard MVC framework
Date Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:33:58 GMT
Ignorant Luddites!

-----Original Message-----
From: Khan, Manuchehar A (ACF) [mailto:mkhan@acf.hhs.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 6:32 PM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Question for using struts as our standard MVC framework


Thanks for input...You are right...Politics play more role here than
technology and innovation. 
I gave 2 hr presentation on pros and cons of framework developed by one
person as compare to people involved behind struts.   Opposition was struts
is not tested or proven, what if jakarta abandon struts project and we will
become dependent on 3rd party tool.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:57 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Question for using struts as our standard MVC framework


Sounds like a political argument more than anything else.

I could list 100 reasons to choose Struts, but it wouldn't change the mind
of someone who 'wants' to use what they have built....especially if they
have a long standing history as defending champion in the Vi(m)  vs.
(X)Emacs debate.

I wish you luck in your endeavor.



James Mitchell
Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta

P.S. Tell them to stop being so ignorant and pickup FUC#ING book.
Hmmm....like the STRUTS book by Chuck Cavaness ;)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Khan, Manuchehar A (ACF) [mailto:mkhan@acf.hhs.gov]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:37 AM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: Question for using struts as our standard MVC framework
>
>
> Hello Folks. I work for Govt and we have major policy meeting for using
> struts as our stantard framework.
> One developer in our team took the Sun pet store example and created a
> framework that is basically a router/controller with xml
> configuration files
> to define handlers and views. And that controller works fine..
> He claims that strut has not followed sun standards and guidelines and
> struts is not reliable. It can only support maximum 100 users and
> next year
> struts team is coming up with new version based in JSTL and will trash all
> releases.
> I need some inputs from people here to make solid arguments for
> changing to
> struts.
> Thanks...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List; Dariusz Wojtas
> Subject: RE: JDO example - rozpakowywac Commanderem
>
>
> Was there a question in there I missed?
>
> James Mitchell
> Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dariusz Wojtas [mailto:dwojtas@myrealbox.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:19 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: JDO example - rozpakowywac Commanderem
> >
> >
> > Wednesday, September 11, 2002, 6:55:25 AM, you wrote:
> > JM> Sorry for the delay.  I've decided to post this on our website.
> >
> > JM> Please feel free to download and try it out.
> >
> > JM>
> http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta/downloads/DBMessageResources
> >
> > JM> If for some reason the site goes down, just send me an email
> > and I'll get it
> > JM> to you.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > JM> James Mitchell
> > JM> Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> > JM> Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> > JM> http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 3:06 PM
> > >> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > >> Subject: [Announce] [New Extension]
> > ApplicationResources.properties from
> > >> Database
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> For anyone interested, I have finished implementing
> DBMessageResources
> > >> which allows you to keep the key-value pairs (from your
> > >> ApplicationResources.properties) in a single database table.
> > >>
> > >> You can load your property files into a table (generic schema
> > is provided)
> > >> and with this extension, by only modifying <message-resources> in
the
> > >> struts-config.xml your application will run WITHOUT ANY code
> > changes. (See
> > >> the readme.txt file included)
> > >>
> > >> This extension uses OJB (http://jakarta.apache.org/ojb) O/R
> mapping for
> > >> database configuration and connection pool management.
> > >>
> > >> I have included a modified version of the (1.1b2) struts-example to
> > >> demonstrate.
> > >>
> > >> I have tested this with Struts 1.1b2, and I'm sure it will
> > work with 1.1b1
> > >> (If anyone requires a 1.0.x compatible, I can look at that also)
> > >>
> > >> I will get this project available as soon as I work through some
> > >> cvs issues
> > >> on sf.net:
> > >>
> > >> If anyone is REALLY itching to get their hands on it sooner,
> send me a
> > >> email.
> > >>
> > >> For those who were waiting, thanks for your patience.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> James Mitchell
> > >> Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> > >> Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> > >> http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> > >>
> > >>
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>  Dariusz Wojtas                 mailto:dwojtas@myrealbox.com
>
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