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From "Andrew Hill" <andrew.david.h...@gridnode.com>
Subject RE: [LEGAL] Apache Software License
Date Fri, 06 Sep 2002 02:51:55 GMT
I would presume this sort of thing could go on the 'legal disclaimer' type
page, along with all the other legal stuff.

<friday>
Thats the page with those intelligent statements such as "foo.com is not
liable for any death, dismemberment or other injury that may occur as a
result of using this website or making use of any search engine or other
website in which this website is listed, linked to, or briefly mentioned in
passing during a conversation about petunias. This may or may not include
but is not limited to websites you cant see and have never heard of, nor
does foo.com accept any liabilty whatsoever for anything that might ever go
wrong to anyone anywhere at any time and for any reason whatsoever.
(Especially if its our fault.)
Note: Do not heat this website in a microwave oven."
</friday>

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc@apache.org]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 00:11
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [LEGAL] Apache Software License




On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Galbreath, Mark wrote:

> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:07:15 -0400
> From: "Galbreath, Mark" <Galbreath@tessco.com>
> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> Subject: RE: [LEGAL] Apache Software License
>
> Thanks, Craig.  Do I understand you to say, then, that (for example)
> shop.t-mobile.com (hosted on our servers) is required to display an
> acknowledgment to Apache?  The reason I'm asking is Marketing refuses to
> display anything and the development team (naturally) wants to display the
> Struts logo (or even a footnote)  on the home page.
>

You don't need to say anything about Struts in particular.

To conform to the license, you do need the Apache copyright notice
somewhere on some page that is visible to the site users.

> Mark

Craig


>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc@apache.org]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:02 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [LEGAL] Apache Software License
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Galbreath, Mark wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:23:34 -0400
> > From: "Galbreath, Mark" <Galbreath@tessco.com>
> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> > To: "Struts (E-mail)" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Subject: [LEGAL] Apache Software License
> >
> > The license states that commercial applications built with Struts (or
> > anything else developed by Apache) must include a copyright
> > notice/acknowledgment be included either in the software documentation
or
> in
> > the software itself.  What does "software itself" mean?
> >
>
> "The software itself" would be relevant when you shipped a stand alone
> application (like a Swing-based GUI app).  In such cases, you'd commonly
> put the attribution on a "Help-->About" menu option.  This doesn't really
> apply, however, when you're doing a server side web app and the software
> stays on your server.
>
> > Public display on a web page?
> >
>
> That's the typical approach for webapps, because that's usually the way
> webapps are documented.  If you also support a downloadable documentation
> bundle, it should be there as well.
>
> > Comment in the source?
>
> Nice, but not helpful (from a license perspective) unless users of the app
> can see your source code.
>
> Since you don't pay for open source software, acknowledgement and credit
> are the "method of payment," if you will.  The publicity is the value to
> the open source developer -- after all, your programmers already know they
> are using it :-).
>
> >
> > Mark
> >
>
> Craig
>
>
>
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