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From "David Graham" <dgraham1...@hotmail.com>
Subject RE: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v3.0]
Date Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:36:44 GMT
Fair enough.  I realize it's time consuming to open source something.  I 
think the tool is pretty nifty and was curious to see the source.

Dave






>From: James Holmes <jholmes612@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>To: Struts Users Mailing List <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>Subject: RE: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v3.0]
>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:05:54 -0800 (PST)
>
>You're right, I wouldn't have to rewrite it, but
>someone would.
>
>I'm not opposed to open source, obviously, as I'm
>involed with Struts and other open source projects.
>However, I'm not ready to open source Struts Console.
>
>-james
>
>--- David Graham <dgraham1980@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes, I've seen that one but it's currently not as
> > nice as Struts Console.
> > You wouldn't have to rewrite it if you made it open
> > source :-).  What are
> > your thoughts on that?
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: James Holmes <jholmes612@yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
> > <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE: [ANNOUNCE]
> > Struts Console v3.0]
> > >Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:49:08 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >Well, Struts Console would essentially need
> > everything
> > >rewritten since 95% of the code is Swing code for
> > the
> > >GUI.  It just doesn't make sense to me to rewrite
> > it
> > >when there is already a native SWT Struts config
> > >editor:
> > >
> > >EasyStruts
> > >http://easystruts.sf.net
> > >
> > >-james
> > >
> > >--- David Graham <dgraham1980@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > If you made Struts Console open source, somebody
> > > > could try porting it to SWT
> > > > for you :-).
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: James Holmes <jholmes612@yahoo.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
> > > > <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > > <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > > >Subject: RE: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE:
> > [ANNOUNCE]
> > > > Struts Console v3.0]
> > > > >Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:27:24 -0800 (PST)
> > > > >
> > > > >No.  Struts Console opens in another window
> > because
> > > > it
> > > > >is written with Swing and not Eclipse's native
> > SWT.
> > > > >I'm not planning to rewrite Struts Console in
> > SWT
> > > > just
> > > > >to work with Eclipse when every other IDE is
> > using
> > > > >Swing.
> > > > >
> > > > >-james
> > > > >
> > > > >--- Xavier Combelle <xcombelle@kaptech.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > When I use Struts console eclipse plugin , a
> > new
> > > > > > window is open
> > > > > > and when I use SolarEclipse, it is open in
> > the
> > > > > > editor pane.
> > > > > > Do I have a problem in the configuration of
> > > > struts
> > > > > > console ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Xavier
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > > > De : David Graham
> > > > [mailto:dgraham1980@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > Envoyé : jeudi 31 octobre 2002 17:55
> > > > > > > À : struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > > > > Objet : RE: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE:
> > > > [ANNOUNCE]
> > > > > > Struts Console v3.0]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is one area Eclipse is lacking in.  I
> > > > wish
> > > > > > they would include web
> > > > > > > development tools (like jsp highlighting)
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > standard release.  I use
> > > > > > > the SolarEclipse plugin for jsp and xml
> > stuff.
> > > > > > It's not the best
> > > > > > > but it's
> > > > > > > better than a simple text editor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://solareclipse.sourceforge.net/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "Sri Sankaran"
> > <Sri.Sankaran@sas.com>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
> > > > > > <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > > > > > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
> > > > > > <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE:
> > > > [ANNOUNCE]
> > > > > > Struts Console v3.0]
> > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:41:14 -0500
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >What plug-in do you recommend for JSP
> > > > editing?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >When I looked (a few months ago) the
> > choice
> > > > was
> > > > > > pretty light and
> > > > > > > even those
> > > > > > > >were very weak on code completion and
> > error
> > > > > > hightlighting.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Sri
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >From: David Graham
> > > > > > [mailto:dgraham1980@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:15 AM
> > > > > > > >To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE:
> > > > [ANNOUNCE]
> > > > > > Struts Console v3.0]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I use eclipse for many reasons, one of
> > which
> > > > is
> > > > > > it's GUI and
> > > > > > > relative light
> > > > > > > >weight (50-60 MB).  The eclipse group
> > wrote
> > > > SWT
> > > > > > because Swing stinks,
> > > > > > > >everyone except Sun recognizes that (that
> > > > should
> > > > > > stir some people up ;-).
> > > > > > > >SWT passes graphics calls straight to the
> > OS
> > > > so
> > > > > > it's fast and you get
> > > > > > > >native
> > > > > > > >widgets, none of this fake stuff.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >The swing implementation on the Mac is
> > the
> > > > only
> > > > > > one that passes straight
> > > > > > > >through to the OS like SWT.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >David
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: "Galbreath, Mark"
> > > > <Galbreath@tessco.com>
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
> > > > > > <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > > > > > > >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > > > > <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE:
> > > > > > [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v3.0]
> > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:33:25 -0500
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Alan Williamson also makes a good case
> > for
> > > > > > Eclipse in the Oct. 2002
> > > > > > > > >edition of "Java Developer's Journal,"
> > p.
> > > > 5.
> > > > > > His article, and what
> > > > > > > > >people have said on this list has made
> > me
> > > > > > interested enough to try it
> > > > > > > > >out.  And it's apparently built with
> > SWT
> > > > > > (Standard Widget Toolkit), not
> > > > > > > > >Swing.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Mark
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > >From: Xavier Combelle
> > > > > > [mailto:xcombelle@kaptech.com]
> > > > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 6:20
> > AM
> > > > > > > > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE:
> > > > > > [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v3.0]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I also love vi
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >but for java developpement, maybe
> > Eclipse
> > > > is a
> > > > > > good choice
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >??
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Xavier
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > > > > > > De : Galbreath, Mark
> > > > > > [mailto:Galbreath@tessco.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Envoyé : jeudi 31 octobre 2002 12:10
> > > > > > > > > > À : 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > > > > > > > > Objet : RE: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE:
> > > > > > [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v3.0]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I agree, but then, I love Java - all
> > of
> > > > it
> > > > > > (but especially the new
> > > > > > > > > > 1.4 goodies!).  I even loved AWT!
> > But as
> > > > an
> > > > > > end-user app?  Ugh!
> > > > > > > > > > This is why
> > > > > > > > >I
> > > > > > > > > > stopped using Forte, NetBeans,
> > > > JDeveloper,
> > > > > > JBuilder, etc.  Resource
> > > > > > > > >hogs,
> > > > > > > > > > only because they are built with
> > Swing.
> > > > > > Give me vi or give me
> > > > > > > > > > death!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Andrew Hill
> > > > > > [mailto:andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002
> > 6:02 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE:
> > > > [ANNOUNCE]
> > > > > > Struts Console v3.0]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I love Swing.
> > > > > > > > > > hmm... actually come to think of it
> > I
> > > > love
> > > > > > *developing* with Swing.
> > > > > > > > > > Using it however... urrrgh!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark
> > > > > > [mailto:Galbreath@tessco.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002
> > 18:55
> > > > > > > > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCE] Struts
> > Console
> > > > v3.0
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Swing sucks.  When is Sun going to
> > get
> > > > it's
> > > > > > act together on
> > > > > > > > > > providing a lightweight GUI
> > framework?
> > > > > > Anybody read Alan
> > > > > > > > > > Williamson's editorial in the 10/02
> > > > edition
> > > > > > of "Java Developer's
> > > > > > > > > > Journal?"
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Mark
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: James Holmes
> > > > > > [mailto:jholmes612@yahoo.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002
> > 5:52
> > > > PM
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Struts Console is Swing not SWT.
> > > > > > > > > >
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