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From "Sterin, Ilya" <Iste...@ciber.com>
Subject RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--
Date Thu, 16 Jan 2003 02:40:07 GMT
New college graduates ..... with lots of java programming experience???

How is that?  Last I checked, 95% of what's taught in college, is
useless at a development job.  Hmmm, at least it was the case for me,
and the developers I've hired in the past.  I think experience speaks
for way more than a degree.

Ilya

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob Hookom [mailto:hookomjj@uwec.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:33 PM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--


Yeah, it would be nice to have some job offers for new college graduates
from nationally accredited universities with lots of java programming
experience.... especially those who have been developing in struts for
over a year now.... ;-)

| -----Original Message-----
| From: Joe Barefoot [mailto:Joe.Barefoot@motiva.com]
| Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:11 PM
| To: Struts Users Mailing List
| Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear--
| 
| +1
| This is probably the best place to find Java web developers that
actually
| know what the hell they're doing.  A hidden bonus to recruiters
looking
| for talent here, IMO, is that they might glean some notions of what 
| quality developers are interested in, talk about, etc--they have to
hang
| out on the list to see responses (well, okay, they could just use a
filter,
| but they're *likely* to hang out here).  If more recruiters did that,
I
| might have to answer less questions in the vein of "What's a Tomcat?"
the
| next time I'm hunting for a new gig.
| 
| peace,
| Joe
| 
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: Justin Ashworth [mailto:justin-struts@ashworth.org]
| > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:06 PM
| > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
| > Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear--
| >
| >
| > At the risk of diverting all the flames of this thread to myself, I 
| > have to put in my 2 cents.  Before you read any further - no, I am 
| > not looking for a job.
| >
| > While a $100 referral fee isn't much at all, it shouldn't be about 
| > that. While YOU may be employed, if you have a friend who needs a 
| > job the money should be secondary.
| >
| > Give credit to Ms. Aileen for knowing where to find good Struts
talent
| > (see her original e-mail).  Many technical recruiters don't deserve 
| > that title and to see one actually go right to the source of the
| > best Struts
| > talent is, to me, quite impressive.  If more recruiters
| > worked this way
| > we would have fewer unqualified developers who get hired into
| > positions
| > that could've been ours, just because they have the right buzzwords
on
| > their resumes.
| >
| > If this was a general Java job opening that was crossposted to 
| > numerous lists or if the list was flooded with such posts, I would 
| > have a different opinion.
| >
| > Justin (donning my flame-retardant suit)
| >
| > > -----Original Message-----
| > > From: Kukreja, Vijay [mailto:VKukreja@numeta.com]
| > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:49 PM
| > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
| > > Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear--
| > >
| > >
| > > $100 referal fee.. hehe.. you must be out of your mind.
| > >
| > > -----Original Message-----
| > > From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:Acardenas@apexsystemsinc.com]
| > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:44 PM
| > > To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
| > > Subject: Not spam...I swear--
| > >
| > >
| > > --just digging for TALENT!
| > >
| > > When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise!
| > >
| > > I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't blame 
| > > me for trying!  Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has some friends

| > > and family out of work and it can't hurt for you to ask them--if 
| > > you refer the person to me who gets the contract, you receive a 
| > > $100 referral fee.
| > >
| > > It's a win-win-win!  Toll free 877-317-8700, or direct
650-583-3600.
| > >
| > > Thanks for your help!
| > > Ms. Aileen
| > > Aileen Cardenas
| > > Technical Recruiter
| > > Apex Systems, Inc.
| > > 1250 Bayhill Drive, Suite 101
| > > San Bruno, CA  94066
| > > 650-583-3600
| > > 650-583-3668 Fax
| > > www.apexsystemsinc.com
| > >
| > >
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