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From "Alexandre Jaquet" <al...@freesurf.ch>
Subject Re: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate?
Date Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:51:19 GMT
or maybe he will get more job's than the others ...

less the rathing he's more client will came ...

I'm a student but I take lots of contracts from
clients who believe compagnies offer service so
expensive for the same job.

That's why I'm so busy lol.
--
Alexandre Jaquet

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sterin, Ilya" <Isterin@ciber.com>
To: "'Andrew Hill '" <andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com>; "'Struts Users
Mailing List '" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate?


> 30*3000 is more than your whole entire career earnings?  Where are you
from?
> India? Russia?
>
> In US that's an average developer contract salary, and $30/hour is a
charge
> that most contractors will laugh at here.
>
> Ilya
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Hill
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Sent: 3/27/03 1:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate?
>
> These are USD per HOUR?
>
> Crikey! You could retire after a couple of years on that!
> Nah that cant be right. I did a bit under 3000 hours last year, multiply
> by
> 30 and convert to local currency adds up to more than Ive earned in my
> whole
> working life (4+ years). A lot more...
>
> Are those fair dinkum rates or are you just having us on?
>
> Five weeks holiday??? OT pay???
>
> Yeh. Thought so. Its a joke. hehe. You had me going there mate!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Kelly [mailto:kelly@ipe.fzk.de]
> Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2003 16:08
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate?
>
>
> These are some going full time rates for a London based e-learning
> company,
> for an average of 1880 hrs worked in one year (Five weeks holiday not
> included in the figures, but you'd get the same rate).  The company pays
> OT
> on projects that need it, but actually limit the number of hours in a
> week
> that an employee can be in the office. (Something about a work/life
> balance,
> whatver than means :-)
>
> All in US dollars (converted from blighty pounds)
>
> Grade one (Whipping boy) - 30$
> Grade two (Code monkey) - 40$
> Grade three (Designer) - 55$
> Grade four (Architect) - 90$
> Grade five (Senior Architect) - 150$
>
> These don't include the options and bonuses (last xmas bonus ranged from
> 500$ to 6000$) and the OT isn't in there (Usually 1.5*hourly
> week-day/sat --
> 2*hourly sun).
>
> Contractor have to pay all the insurance and stuff, so I'd dap about
> 22-40%
> on top of each of these + a little extra if your gonna have to live in
> an
> expensive part of town.
>
> NOTE to the lawer.  It only becomes illegal if it can be proven that we
> have
> set a level of pay *and* have all agreed to follow this level.  If
> you've
> been on here long enough, you'd know *noone* ever agrees about
> anything!!
> =]:0)
>
> Good luck with the job, I hear California is nice this time of year!!
>
> Cheers
>
> Simon
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Micael" <caraunltd@harbornet.com>
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>;
> "'Struts
> Users Mailing List'" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:08 AM
> Subject: RE: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate?
>
>
> > I hope you know that my prior response that the lawyer should be fired
> was
> > not aimed at you, Tammy.  I appreciate your assistance.  I think it is
> > really funny, however, that a lawyer would actually associate what we
> are
> > doing with antitrust behavior.  Heck, I feel bigger and better
> > now.  LOL!  That lawyer needs to get the tune to match the lyrics.
> >
> > At 08:49 PM 3/26/03 -0800, Tammy Cravit wrote:
> > > > general landscape well (Tomcat, Struts, Ant, etc., etc., with
> Linux,
> > > > scripting, various databases, etc.).  What would a reasonable
> request
> > > > be?  Thanks.
> > >
> > >First of all, I would caution about asking questions like this on a
> > >mailing list, as the discussion of hourly rates and stuff came up on
> > >another list I belong to and the moderators there obtained an opinion
> > >from a lawyer that discussing pricing in terms of specific dollar
> > >amounts in a group like this could be deemed price-fixing by the
> courts,
> > >which is illegal.
> > >
> > >That having been said, one common rule of thumb seems to be to divide
> > >your annual salary as an employee by 1000, and using that as a
> starting
> > >point for figuring out your hourly rate. Obviously you'd need to
> adjust
> > >that for your local market, but that's not a bad starting point.
> > >
> > >Tammy
> > >
> > >
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