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From Scott Barr <sc...@exergonic.com.au>
Subject RE: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate?
Date Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:44:25 GMT

Yeah, but we both (i think Andrew is an Aussie) live in Australia. Land
of low wages :)

Scott
www.exergonic.com.au

On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 06:26, Sterin, Ilya wrote:

> 30*3000 is more than your whole entire career earnings?  Where are you from?
> India? Russia?
> 
> In US that's an average developer contract salary, and $30/hour is a charge
> that most contractors will laugh at here.
> 
> Ilya
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Hill
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Sent: 3/27/03 1:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate?
> 
> These are USD per HOUR?
> 
> Crikey! You could retire after a couple of years on that!
> Nah that cant be right. I did a bit under 3000 hours last year, multiply
> by
> 30 and convert to local currency adds up to more than Ive earned in my
> whole
> working life (4+ years). A lot more...
> 
> Are those fair dinkum rates or are you just having us on?
> 
> Five weeks holiday??? OT pay???
> 
> Yeh. Thought so. Its a joke. hehe. You had me going there mate!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Kelly [mailto:kelly@ipe.fzk.de]
> Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2003 16:08
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate?
> 
> 
> These are some going full time rates for a London based e-learning
> company,
> for an average of 1880 hrs worked in one year (Five weeks holiday not
> included in the figures, but you'd get the same rate).  The company pays
> OT
> on projects that need it, but actually limit the number of hours in a
> week
> that an employee can be in the office. (Something about a work/life
> balance,
> whatver than means :-)
> 
> All in US dollars (converted from blighty pounds)
> 
> Grade one (Whipping boy) - 30$
> Grade two (Code monkey) - 40$
> Grade three (Designer) - 55$
> Grade four (Architect) - 90$
> Grade five (Senior Architect) - 150$
> 
> These don't include the options and bonuses (last xmas bonus ranged from
> 500$ to 6000$) and the OT isn't in there (Usually 1.5*hourly
> week-day/sat --
> 2*hourly sun).
> 
> Contractor have to pay all the insurance and stuff, so I'd dap about
> 22-40%
> on top of each of these + a little extra if your gonna have to live in
> an
> expensive part of town.
> 
> NOTE to the lawer.  It only becomes illegal if it can be proven that we
> have
> set a level of pay *and* have all agreed to follow this level.  If
> you've
> been on here long enough, you'd know *noone* ever agrees about
> anything!!
> =]:0)
> 
> Good luck with the job, I hear California is nice this time of year!!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Simon
> 



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