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From "Chappell, Simon P" <Simon.Chapp...@landsend.com>
Subject RE: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)
Date Mon, 03 Mar 2003 22:09:46 GMT
I know, but arguing languages is as much use as arguing vi/emacs.

Actually, I think that Ruby is going to be the next big scripting language and that the fault-tolerant
systems of the next decade will be written in Erlang. Just my $0.02.

Simon

P.S. Did you mean "baiter"?

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:mark_galbreath@qat.com]
>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 4:03 PM
>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>Subject: RE: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)
>
>
>You guys are soooooo easy!
>
>Mark, the Master Bater
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:Simon.Chappell@landsend.com] 
>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 5:00 PM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)
>
>
>I have no intention of arguing this one. I've seen shell scripters that
>could run rings around some java programmers. The language is 
>rarely the
>issue. The skill of the programmer is the issue. Text editor 
>usage is only
>an observable trait in skilled programmers.
>
>Simon
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@hotmail.com]
>>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 3:56 PM
>>To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
>>Subject: Re: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)
>>
>>
>>There have also been studies that show perl programmers are
>>generally better 
>>than java programmers.
>>
>>David
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Chappell, Simon P" <Simon.Chappell@landsend.com>
>>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
><struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>>>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>>>Subject: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)
>>>Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:38:25 -0600
>>>
>>>Actually, my primary point was text editor usage and
>>programmer ability.
>>>
>>>It is my personal observation that the better programmers use
>>text editors.
>>>(vi or emacs or jedit or vim ... I don't care ... that's not
>>the argument
>>>here). I'm not quite saying that IDEs are bad, although I'm certainly
>>>tempted to say that some days, but programmers who CAN 
>>program with text
>>>editors and command-line tools are orders of magnitude better
>>than those
>>>who can't. You are more than welcome to tell me that you
>>believe this is
>>>not so, but I have observed it enough that, to me, it is a truism.
>>>
>>>Simon
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@hotmail.com]
>>> >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:56 PM
>>> >To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
>>> >Subject: RE: [OT]: What is vim?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >VIM (vi) beats the hell out of EMACS, unless you are a LISP 
>>> >> >weenie with a masochistic bent.  And any non-dot-completion 
>>> >> >editor refines your sense of
>>> >> >the API because it forces you to RTFM.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Mark
>>> >
>>> >I use an ide and am referencing javadoc all the time anyways. I 
>>> >don't see any correlation between ide use and api ignorance.
>>> >
>>> >David
>>> >
>>> >
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