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From iguane18-3 <iguane...@yahoo.fr>
Subject RE: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)
Date Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:40:40 GMT
is there any relation between skill and productivity?

At 16:43 03/03/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>IDE is what we usually called productivity tool, text editor is not.
>There is nothing to do with a developer's skill.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:Simon.Chappell@landsend.com]
>Sent: March 3, 2003 4:38 PM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)
>
>Actually, my primary point was text editor usage and programmer ability.
>
>It is my personal observation that the better programmers use text
>editors. (vi or emacs or jedit or vim ... I don't care ... that's not
>the argument here). I'm not quite saying that IDEs are bad, although I'm
>certainly tempted to say that some days, but programmers who CAN program
>with text editors and command-line tools are orders of magnitude better
>than those who can't. You are more than welcome to tell me that you
>believe this is not so, but I have observed it enough that, to me, it is
>a truism.
>
>Simon
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:56 PM
> >To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> >Subject: RE: [OT]: What is vim?
> >
> >
> >> >
> >> >VIM (vi) beats the hell out of EMACS, unless you are a LISP
> >> >weenie with a
> >> >masochistic bent.  And any non-dot-completion editor refines
> >> >your sense of
> >> >the API because it forces you to RTFM.
> >> >
> >> >Mark
> >
> >I use an ide and am referencing javadoc all the time anyways.
> >I don't see
> >any correlation between ide use and api ignorance.
> >
> >David
> >
> >
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