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From "James Higginbotham" <jhigginbot...@betweenmarkets.com>
Subject RE: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
Date Thu, 06 Mar 2003 20:25:18 GMT
Ah, yes... I can't imagine my life without ERWin, though I haven't
upgraded since it was owned by Platinum. It still works like a champ
after 6 years.. Too bad there isn't a similar product that is x-plat for
Becky's needs. 

James

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitchell Morris [mailto:mmorris@mindspring.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:10 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
> 
> 
> This misses your stated constraints in two big ways: it's for 
> Windows, and it's nothing remotely close to free but you may 
> be able to get the sales people to comp you one or reduce the 
> price dramatically since you're an acccredited university.
> 
> That said, I've never had the pleasure of working with a tool 
> for database modeling that's anywhere near as complete as 
> Computer Associates ERwin (now called "AllFusion Data 
> Modeler", I think). It does logical/physical modeling, 
> user-defined domains, subject area diagramming, IDEF1X and 
> Chen notation, and lots of other useful database modeling 
> stuff. I've been using it rather strenuously for about two 
> years now and I continue to find new ways to (1) reduce my 
> efforts and (2) improve my results using the tool. Oh yeah, 
> and it generates loverly diagrams with color-coding.
> 
> That isn't to say it's the greatest thing since "vi", because 
> nothing is, really. It has some, um, interesting interface 
> quirks, strange ideas about pathfinding for the relationship 
> lines, and the occasional flaky behavior. On the balance, 
> though, I can't say good enough about it to people who have 
> the scratch to purchase it.
> 
> +Mitchell
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Becky Norum [mailto:bnorum@coe.neu.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:44 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
> >
> >
> > I've stayed quiet on this since I've used IDEs rarely.  I 
> stick with 
> > xemacs and vi when necessary.  I've been curious how much 
> an IDE like 
> > JDeveloper speeds up the process, once you are familiar with it.  I 
> > tried it for a couple of hours once, but found it kind of a pain to 
> > use.  Is spending time learning one's way around really worth it?
> >
> > OTOH, there are times when a typo in my struts-config.xml 
> or web.xml 
> > waste an hour or two my time, and having some sort of 
> validation would 
> > be great.
> >
> > And _really_ off-topic, what do you folks use for ERD modeling in 
> > *nix? I haven't been able to get DIA or xfig to generate decent 
> > looking .eps for papers, so I.. um.. do them in Windows.  Any other 
> > (free
> > - we are a
> > poor academic research center :D) modeling software out 
> there people 
> > use?  Or tips on maximizing xfig/DIA?
> >
> > --
> > Becky Norum <bnorum@coe.neu.edu>
> > Becky Norum
> > Database Administrator
> > Center for Subsurface Sensing and Imaging Systems (CenSSIS) 
> > Northeastern University http://www.censsis.neu.edu
> > >
> > > --- Dejan Krsmanovic <dejan.krsmanovic@nbj.sv.gov.yu>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I have used 9.0.3 for building few struts
> > > > applications and I can say it
> > > > saved me a lot of time. They have integrated few
> > > > wizards for working with
> > > > config files and support for taglibs (autocomplete
> > > > etc.). However I have
> > > > found few bugs (for example when specifying data
> > > > source configuration in
> > > > struts-config). Also, there was no support for tiles
> > > > and validator.
> > > >
> > > > These days I saw Oracle has released maintainance
> > > > version - 9.0.3.1, but I
> > > > haven't downloaded it yet.
> > > >
> > > > Dejan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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