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From "John Espey" <>
Subject RE: [OT]: What is vim?
Date Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:10:04 GMT
People always mention auto-complete, but it seems to me that it is one of
the least significant features of an IDE in terms of enhanced productivity.
Auto-generation of test cases, refactoring, import organization, package
generation, exception generation, JPDA, etc. are all things that I think are
much more important than autocomplete (although it is a nice feature to

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Reumann []
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 3:00 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT]: What is vim?
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:56:45 -0500
> "Mark Galbreath" <> wrote:
> > And any non-dot-completion editor refines
> > your sense of the API because it forces you to RTFM.
> Ok, I see the whole vi/emacs/IDE wars starting up:) Sure in the
> beginning a newbie should learn to use a basic text editor and an API,
> but I can GUARANTEE you I can set a bunch of methods in large bean that
> a team member created using dot-completion faster than you can if you
> have to look up all the methods in the java doc (which often times isn't
> created until late in the project cycle). Don't get me wrong I love
> learning vi and the only IDE I pretty much use now is jEdit, although I
> do use the dot completion when coding in Java.
> Looking up to find out whether the set method is setPhoneNumber or
> or setPhone is a heck of a lost faster with dot completion than having
> to check out another windows and find the name of the method and then
> type it all out. I really don't understand why people are against dot
> completion. A true newbie still would have to RTFM to find out what
> method to call for many things so dot completion doesn't even come into
> play there. You can simply code faster with dot completion.
> --
> Rick Reumann
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