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From Erik Price <epr...@ptc.com>
Subject Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?
Date Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:17:58 GMT
Rise and fall of the American empire....

What's funny is that many misguided fools will accuse you of being 
unpatriotic if you *don't* support globalism, et al.


Erik




Vic Cekvenich wrote:
> Together with low demand
> 
> http://news.com.com/2100-1022_3-5051028.html?tag=lh
> http://news.com.com/2100-1012_3-5051575.html?tag=fd_top
> A lot of supply of above.
> 
> We need better productivity.... via training?!
> .V
> 
> 
> Christopher Fox wrote:
> 
>> internet bubble caused developers to be scarce and rose the pay to beyond
>> belief
>> then all of a sudden everyone started wanting to be a computer programmer
>> and then when the collapse came
>> so went the money and jobs ... oh don't worry ... there will be jobs ...
>> just for not much pay
>> since there is now a glut of programmers ... kinda like the lawyers in 
>> the
>> 80s
>>
>> but now you gotta learn so much, stay on top and the reward is no longer
>> there
>> (at least for the masses)
>>
>> you have been comoditized!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:mark_galbreath@qat.com]
>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 2:58 PM
>> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>> Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?
>>
>>
>> I'm serious, dude!  I know many unemployed developers right now.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Yansheng Lin [mailto:yansheng.lin@isogis.com]
>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:59 PM
>> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>> Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?
>>
>>
>> Thanks Mark!  You made me feel much better.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:mark_galbreath@qat.com]
>> Sent: July 18, 2003 11:11 AM
>> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'; dgraham@apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?
>>
>>
>> What's the issue?  They paying you, aren't they?  Be glad to have a job!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Graham [mailto:grahamdavid1980@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:54 PM
>> To: Struts Users Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?
>>
>>
>> --- Yansheng Lin <yansheng.lin@isogis.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To them, Online spreadsheet data-entry is a reasonable request.  They
>>> don't want to change their ways of practise, what can we do?
>>
>>
>>
>> This implies that they are currently using an online spreadsheet program.
>> Are they, or do they want you to build them one?  I would hand them a CD
>> with OpenOffice on it and tell them to have fun :-).
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>> They are paying us!
>>>
>>> Darn, life is so hard!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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