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From "Dakota Jack" <dakota.j...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Some questions
Date Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:47:08 GMT
Exactly.  I am amazed that this is not crystal clear to anyone, except the
usuals.

On 4/5/06, Jonathan Revusky <revusky@wanadoo.es> wrote:
>
> Dakota Jack wrote:
> > I would like to disabuse the "usuals" of an assumption that seems to
> pervade
> > these discussions, viz., that everything is open for discussion and
> > any statement
> > is warranted.  That simply is not consistent with intelligent
> discussion.
> > The very idea that Struts 1.x is a viable choice for a new project is
> itself
> > really questionable.
>
> The only conditions where I see it making sense is for people who
> already have a significant investment in using Struts 1.x and,
> therefore, know all the various API's and the various gotchas like the
> backs of their hands.
>
> Then, pragmatically speaking, it could  well be the easiest, fastest way
> for those people to crank out some typical kind of web app.
>
> But what started off this discussion was a query from someone who had
> never used Struts (or any competing java framework) before. Given those
> parameters, it seems crazy to recommend Struts 1.x at this stage of
> history. If the developers of the thing basically say it's obsolete and
> won't be developed further, why on earth should this not be taken at
> face value?
>
> Jonathan Revusky
> --
> lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/
>
> > I have to wonder how anyone looking at the issues
> > could think that and be taken seriously.  Is there nothing on this list
> that
> > is settled truth?  Nothing?  I thought at least the fact that this
> community
> > has abandoned Struts 1.x as second rate ought to be unassailable grounds
> for
> > NOT recommending it to people asking for advice.  But, I guess not.  I
> don't
> > know if a normal conversation is possible with this community.
> >
> > On 4/5/06, Frank W. Zammetti <fzlists@omnytex.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, April 5, 2006 11:46 am, Dakota Jack said:
> >>
> >>>Frank, this is uncalled for.
> >>
> >>Talk about uncalled for... you call me deplorable and ignorant in
> another
> >>post, and what *I* said is uncalled for?
> >>
> >>
> >>>Jonathan is clearly right on this and you
> >>>are
> >>>clearly wrong.
> >>
> >>I bow to your omnipotence.  You clearly have all the answers, and the
> rest
> >>of us are just lucky to be living on the same planet as you.  I would
> not
> >>dare to debate you, since I am so clearly, totally and utterly wrong
> about
> >>everything.
> >>
> >>And as with Jonathan, feel free to have the last word.  I've already
> been
> >>drawn in more than I should have allowed.  Then again, when dealing with
> >>someone so clearly superior to myself, how could I have hoped to do
> >>better?
> >>
> >>Frank
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its
> back."
> > ~Dakota Jack~
> >
>
>
>
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"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back."
~Dakota Jack~

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