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From Piero Sartini <>
Subject Re: what version of struts is better?
Date Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:04:47 GMT
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 15:19:27 Frank Russo wrote:
> Actually, I disagree. JSF is a framework. I used MyFaces and their
> component library exclusively, without using Shale, Seam or anything
> else...

I used JSP and Servlets exclusively to build web apps years ago. JSP is no 
framework for most people. But I do agree that JSF has some functionalities 
where a webframework was needed before.

Maybe its just a question of what we call a "web framework". For me, it is 
something like struts. There is no need to build another framework on top of 
it. With JSF, things are different. There IS a need to build a web framework 
on top of it (Seam, Shale, etc). At least for me it does not feel "complete" 
enough to build my applications with it.

Craig said in another thread [1] at this list that "JSF focuses on the 
component APIs and the foundations for application needs" and that 
a "framework on top of JSF" is a reasonable thing for an application 
developer to want.



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