From users-return-25167-apmail-subversion-users-archive=subversion.apache.org@subversion.apache.org Sun Sep 18 12:34:50 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-subversion-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-subversion-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABA521995A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 91628 invoked by uid 500); 18 Sep 2016 12:34:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-subversion-users-archive@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 91591 invoked by uid 500); 18 Sep 2016 12:34:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@subversion.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 91578 invoked by uid 99); 18 Sep 2016 12:34:50 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:34:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 92BD01A05B0 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:34:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.821 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.821 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yKIC-FXRCy5b for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf0-f41.google.com (mail-lf0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 0BE6A5F487 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf0-f41.google.com with SMTP id g62so89139397lfe.3 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 05:34:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=8LrHzPe+XW7c3YwpHBC5TNX7eLfNY5oBKJZvFS/MVZY=; b=auX8iYyEVZdOG7guetM9+YnUFZr6SIGVho423FHbgnfr0SrE62Qv1YJi2GR25RcU3H H3jY9MQ+26XTTe2W3jSwOAnxYDcfnWM/47v2io9KlqvdYZpAPcHGgJ1mGtScrC8NxvgQ job+3jVxjnXKOjbIxISxILRaz8jOs8d3pCjsSGA/I2qTywSOH6FFLkh+TpOThsiZdhAX IhE0i6jyYYhuoQKborRcCzXJnI+9MjB+vrhDY+1WrP2/jsRmeTh5CpYJn+hLIWk62Xt9 V6LwjQMy7EarzXfTIYmc9pp0hzPrbomEQ9Af8NLXwiivD65tZTw4Knwh1xzOuRQyw86W 46xQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=8LrHzPe+XW7c3YwpHBC5TNX7eLfNY5oBKJZvFS/MVZY=; b=RpBLxiZLa9aXi7QF/EPSLrnlcfaAaPCmz1lZcwXLD3rFklM57B82bonJdc4zXKc4LE SkDd6UjXax6bUEqxAkgYpi192Zc/nXdxOw3s0GGCscEgRTIyu0SC46UWCHGTXYmI2IIw X21ISjss9naIc5zqaXUTqcwfGPFO6UEIOaTo1QmceQAsOkjtiXoK4u4e7Y32KkE28rOd 9H+m3VOrCiGCk/tb/TjjYIs8OtIXdXmNtrYKliIomKEoKsGGJ7X1GK1Uqs03X4dRIPAG uH7E9Ikf4gWr6+AWA6QDyubTQjY3XzZSmfQBzNG6x0kcyGhhgtgXho4fpCobCtGdIU+t r1DA== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwOX7Mi+GiO5JHXlXipuDB9nye1st2vVS/hwdSWeUinYkKu27ZL1E/iCUYqG54eCJ893mjVeW43gpxH0qQ== X-Received: by 10.46.9.139 with SMTP id 133mr1039320ljj.3.1474202079527; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 05:34:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.17.78 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 05:34:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Nico Kadel-Garcia Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 08:34:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Ending my RHEL backports support for Subversion To: Subversion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've been publishing backports of Subversion over at github.com for RHEL based operating systems for some years now. They used to be published at RPMForge while that was still active. And it was useful to me, and to some others, to get up-to-date releases on current or older operating systems, especially for the long-term RHEL based systems. Unfortunately, it's gotten too expensive for me to do. There are several factors. The big one is the updated requirements with each major release. Using more recent new technologies, like serf, and SQLite are understandable upstream changes, but it means integrating support for them for another set of RPM's for those components, and building up the support chains for tools like updated serf, multiplies the work and threatens other stable tools which might use serf. It's an old issue for many projects, but the return on investment of my time has pretty much evaporated with RPMforge defunct. I'm also afraid that the other big factor, for me, is the long-missing "obliterate" feature. The lack of any graceful way to clear inappropriately committed or discarded content has become the biggest reason *not* to use Subversion, and I can't burn my engineering time backporting software without a graceful way to clean up the inevitably bulky or security sensitive bad commit.