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From Nico Kadel-Garcia <>
Subject Re: Apache httpd 2.4 + Subversion 1.9.5 + LDAP combination does not work on CentOS 7.x
Date Thu, 20 Jul 2017 13:05:11 GMT
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:04 PM, Nathan Hartman
<> wrote:
>> On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:08 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia <> wrote:
>> Yup. I don't do it every week, or even every month. Frankly, as
>> Subversion has been falling in popularity,
> I think that's like the BSD is dying myth. While it's true that hype, Linus's blessing,
and the availability of GitHub have taken a big chunk of the F/OSS world by storm, there are
still plenty of people, projects, and businesses that use Subversion. We recently evaluated
other systems which shall remain nameless just to make sure we're on top of goings on in our
industry and our experiences reaffirmed why we use Subversion. In a decade of use, zero problems.
It's mature, it does what it's supposed to do, and it's simple to use. We like it. So do numerous
other people.

I didn't say Subversion was dying. I said it was falling in
popularity, which is consistent with the surveys I can find. And dear
lordie, it's consistent with my professional and amateur software
development experience. I've seen *one* new repo started or built from
scratch under Subversion since 2006. I've seen approximately 1000
software projects or repos started or built from scratch under another
source control system, which shall remain unnamed but which hosts my
Subversion RPM building tools, I've also helped with roughly half a
dozen funded projects migrating *away* from Subversion in that time. I
help out new admins and users on the group out of appreciation, not
because it's funded or because the userbase is growing.

The local HTTP credential storage is a longstanding sore point, I
admit, which is why I *didn't* harp on it. I mentioned it as a
specific security issue, in passing, which a new HTTPS Subversion
administrator may not have considered. And I mentioned it as leverage
to migrate away away from the httpd server integration. The httpd
server integration has traditionally been one of the most awkward
parts of Subversion server support, as the original poster was
noticing quite painfully.

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