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From "Richard Lewis-Shell" <rlewissh...@mac.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.4 for Tapestry 3.1
Date Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:45:55 GMT
I don't think these benefits of moving to 1.4 outweigh the costs.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hlship@comcast.net>
To: "'Tapestry development'" <tapestry-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 1:35 AM
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.4 for Tapestry 3.1


> Two features I would like to take advantage of:
>
> Regular expressions (so as to remove the dependency on Jakarta ORO)
> Easier access to stack trace (better, more accurate output on the
Exception page)
>
> There's also a bit of code here and there that works around JDK bugs that
are fixed in 1.4.
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
> Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
> Creator, Jakarta HiveMind
> http://howardlewisship.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anatoli Krassavine [mailto:anatoli.krassavine@intellidos.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:24 AM
> > To: 'Tapestry development'
> > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.4 for Tapestry 3.1
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > In my field (pharmaceutical/oil/utilities industries)
> > everyone has long
> > moved to 1.4.
> >
> > I could see no problems (and multiple advantages) in Tapestry
> > using 1.4 API.
> >
> > Nevertheless, I appreciate that there are organizations for
> > which it is
> > going to be an issue. Which 1.4 features are you planning to
> > use? Will it be
> > possible to isolate them, so that a custom 1.3 build will still be
> > available?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >  Toly
> >
> > Intellidos Limited
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Danny Angus [mailto:Danny_Angus@slc.co.uk]
> > Sent: 10 June 2004 15:13
> > To: Tapestry development
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.4 for Tapestry 3.1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I say go for it. 1.4 has been out for a long time now...
> >
> > I'd temper that with a note of caution, many big
> > organisations have a much
> > slower turn around time, the suppliers of software have to
> > upgrade it to be
> > compatible with the newer JVM, then the organisation itself
> > has to evaluate
> > and upgrade.
> >
> > We've only recently gone to 1.4, because we've only recently upgraded
> > oracle software, which itself demanded 1.3 for quite a while
> > after 1.4 was
> > out.
> >
> > In point of fact if we were still running our appservers on
> > the UNIX we had
> > been using we'd *still* not be able to upgrade to 1.4 and be
> > supported by
> > Oracle.
> >
> > My Point?.. Make sure that your reasons for upgrading Tapestry's
> > requirement are sound, and don't do this on a whim just
> > because you fancy
> > messing about with nio or jdbc3.
> >
> > d.
> >
> >
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