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From Jesse Kuhnert <jkuhn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: PageRedirectException in pageBeginRender or pageAttached
Date Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:21:37 GMT
Hmmm....Maybe you have a point.

On 11/3/05, Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi <leonardo@dtqsoftware.com> wrote:
> Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> > There is such a thing as creating a patch you know. Being ignored after
> > submitted a very acceptable patch and being ignored after submitting a
> bug
> > request are two very different things. I think with open source projects
> you
> > kind of have to either pay for it/fix it yourself/wait until it's fixed
> for
> > you. I know the first option is available by going to
> > tapestrysupport.com <http://tapestrysupport.com><
> http://tapestrysupport.com>;)
> >
> Oh yes. There also such a thing as feedback. I contributed once a patch
> to this project, only to see that it's sitting around hoping someone
> will look at it:
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-628
> This is a simple patch for what I was asking for, it just adds a file to
> the codebase, and that's it. Sure, it needs some work, but its a good
> start.
> But it's still floating around.
> Now, for this other issue:
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-735
> I didn't provide a patch, but rather asked for feedback. I just wanted
> to know if it was worth it to present a patch (if it was going to be
> included). The component is very handy, it allows to include Javascript
> functions that invoke listeners. Dump LinkSubmit and add this JS
> function to any DirectLink, PageLink, etc. A nice refactoring.
> For the exception error, IMO it's a simple catch you have to add:
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-671
> But a frequent (and annoying) trend JIRA-based projects have it's that
> developers close issue reports after rejecting them. In the Bugzilla days,
> one could re-open an issue. Here we can't. Ignoring subsequent comments to
> the JIRA issue is just rude and inconsiderate to the people that are
> contributing to the project (don't worry, Gavin King of Hibernate also does
> that - maybe jboss's last 4 letters have gone to his head and it's
> regrettable to see, for a guy - me - that has been involved in that project
> since 2002). I don't like spamming JIRA databases, so I'd rather whine here
> in the developer's list.
> For the redirect error:
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-607
> I didn't provide a patch, since I was exploring the functionality. I *did*
> explore the bug, and said (in the issue, that wasn't reported by me) that it
> was caused by an incorrect reset() on internal forwards, and that Tomcat
> didn't allow for the encoding to be changed after a reset() in the same
> request.
> Anyway. I'm just trying to help. But providing patches / errors request
> when nobody's reading them, well ... I have a job, too. I can't waste my
> time talking to the wall.
> Somewhere around here Geoff was complaining about something similar. IMO
> his bug was not as critical as he thinks, but I agree with him in that the
> problem is that "nobody cares!"
> So, my opinion is, if maintainers don't have time to keep up with all the
> bug reports, then get more developers involved! Maybe it's better to do a
> code freeze for 4.0. Cool! Then go fix the bugs, but don't go talking
> about doing a RC if you still have nasty errors.
> I'm all into contributing to open source projects. It contributes with my
> work and I can give something back. But there are 'developer-friendly'
> projects and there are 'ego-friendly' ones. If a developer provides a patch,
> or provides a detailed bug report, or asks for feedback on a complex issue,
> it's not a good idea to ignore him. We're open source developers, not
> beggars.
> --
> Ing. Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi
> Director T├ęcnico
> DTQ Software
> p.s.: Please, please don't fall in the trap of releasing a bad product /
> bad documentation and then force people to go to TapestrySupport.com.
> It's just unprofessional. I'm not saying you are doing it, but then..
> don't do it, really... (I have enough with JasperReports's lack of
> documentation and all the ads promoting JasperSoft. Sorry, but I'd
> rather see a complete project before thinking of paying support for it).
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