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From "Davor Hrg" <hrgda...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: do we really want dojo so tightly integrated in tapestry?
Date Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:17:04 GMT
Does this resistance to abstracting means that tapestry will not be usable
javascript support ?

I actualy don't mind it, since I focus my developement on moz/IE only after
minimal dojo sounds fine to me

how about following:
 - default: minimal-dojo
 - pure: no-js

components that can not be used without dojo should not be inside core
they belong to the contrib.

client validation could be pluggable

Davor Hrg

On 1/9/07, Kent Tong <kent@cpttm.org.mo> wrote:
> RonPiterman <rpiterman <at> gmx.net> writes:
> > Its not the download time, its the bootstrapping on each request which
> > makes things heavy...
> Have you measured the time taken for dojo to bootstrap? That file is
> only 14K and only defines a dozen of functions and some variables
> (http://trac.dojotoolkit.org/browser/trunk/src/bootstrap1.js). I
> am not sure this is going to slow down the browser.
> > If one does not need widgets but "just" wants to use EventListener and
> > async requests, maybe also client side validation, why not let the
> > programmer/community the ability to choose a JS framework implementation
> -
> The questions are:
> 1) Is the other JS framework not subjected to the same bootstrap issue?
> 2) Is the effect to fix this issue in dojo larger than that of creating
> & *maintaining* an abstraction layer?
> > I don't have much experience with scriptacuolus but it seems fair enough
> > to me to use - prototype has also some listener implementation, and as
> > much as dojo may be supperior, we pay a price for it, which we don't
> > have to pay... more important: it apears to me to be a solid criteria in
> > choosing a web framework - for a "normal" site, I find it hard ro
> > recommend a framework with such a slow responsiveness...
> Is this experience based on the pre-packaged dojo.js or a bare mimimal
> dojo?
> --
> Kent Tong
> Author of a book for learning Tapestry (http://www.agileskills2.org/EWDT)
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