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From Roman Shaposhnik <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]
Date Mon, 23 Jun 2014 23:26:29 GMT
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Bikas Saha <bikas@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Community building is an organic process that grows on its own accord.
>>
>
> Really, I was going to run away for a bit, but my feeling is that this
> statement is amazingly naive about how communities are built.
>
> Community doesn't just happen.  Community doesn't just grow of its own
> accord.  Community grows when people make serious, explicit actions to help
> it grow, to bring in newcomers, to publish plans in many places *before*
> code is written.
>
> Building community is hard work that you have to intend to do.  If you
> don't do the work, it won't just happen any more than code writes itself.\

+infinity to that!

And in fact, I think this is the crux of this very discussion: as part
of the graduation criteria an incubating project needs to demonstrate
that they have understood and mastered that art.  At the end of the
day the passing grade for incubating is based on that very criteria:
can a project demonstrate that if allowed to the TLP status it will
not let its community wane.

Thanks,
Roman.

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