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From "Shelly Mujtaba" <>
Subject RE: Most useful Tag library Poll
Date Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:10:52 GMT
I read with interest the post about ejb. If I had to sum it up in one word,
I would say "Swing". Remember 1997, when swing just came out, it was the
latest microsoft killer, we would build our own MS office, replace the
desktop blah blah. 3 years later, Marc Andreesen (netscape) admitted defeat
("Java on the client is dead..."). While this is not completely true, the
moral of the story is "Every technology has its place, don't get religious
about technology and finally the best way to kill something is overhype it".

So use EJB, but don't try to solve world hunger with it....


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Cheesman []
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:12 AM
Subject: RE: Most useful Tag library Poll

At 06:16 PM 06/07/01, you wrote:
>Interestingly, lately I've seen lots of developers come to the
>conclusion that EJBs (Entity and Session) are not appropriate for all (or
>even most) Enterprise tasks.  I've seen several threads lately about
>companies that started out with pure EJB solutions and then scaled back to
>simple classes running inside the Servlet container and/or taglibs,
>resulting in significant performance boosts (I myself worked on such a

I looked into EJBs and came to the same conclusions that you did - they're
significantly slower than a "normal" bean+servlet+jsp solution.

That said, I was using JBoss and not some whizz-bang commercial server...



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