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From Alberto López <>
Subject Re: Fwd: Thank you for not supporting me in any way
Date Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:51:36 GMT

Dear David,

first of all I have to say that I really appreciate your answer and I
completly understand your situation. It is also clear to me that you guys
are doing a great job which so much of us happily benefit from, and which is
something I really appreciate. So no one has the right to have a demanding

Having said that, it was something frustrating to see the threads advanzing
at a good pace with a high amount of feedback and no one answering such a
fundamental issue like mine. Hence, I got the impression that I never would
get an answer, which was the reason that got me somewhat angry. Fortunately,
time prooved that I was wrong. Of course I will keep working with OpenEJB.

To better understand my personal situation let me tell you also that I'm
trying to convince my organization ( to get much more
involved with open source, which is a hard task because you have to fight a
good amount of fear and ignorance regarding open source. I guess you know
the cliches around open source better than me.

So that's the reason why I was somewhat more susceptible towards getting
support than normal. Please excuse me for that. 


Alberto López

David Blevins wrote:
> Alberto,
> Lo siento por todo.  The quality and speed of responsiveness on the  
> users list is something that has been a strength in the project, but  
> the user base has grown considerably since our 3.1 release and it is  
> leading to slower response times.  To survive this growth we are going  
> to need some of these new users to turn into developers and committers  
> and contributors.
> Apache projects are true community run projects for the good and bad.   
> The good is that the doors to the project are truly open, not  
> restricted to people of any specific company, and anyone can come in  
> and contribute.  This includes you and any other members of the  
> community.  OpenEJB has no owner other than Apache whose only concern  
> is ensuring that the users of the software have the access they need  
> to support themselves, add the features they need, can benefit in  
> others doing the same and ultimately to legally protect that vision  
> and those that share in it.  Apache is not an organization like JBoss  
> or Glassfish where the code is owned by a for-profit company who  
> retains the right to make all decisions, has a staff of salaried  
> developers and a dedicated support team.
> What we do have is a small community of individuals who believe in the  
> project, view themselves not as owners but as custodians, and want  
> nothing more than to see the project thrive and to share it with  
> others who feel the same.  As one of the more core people on the  
> project, I feel a heightened responsibility for the project's success,  
> but ultimately it is everyone's responsibility as it should be.
> I truly hope you that you re-evaluate OpenEJB based on it's ability or  
> potential to serve your needs and to view the community of people  
> around it not as people who are trying to sell you something or owe  
> you anything, but as peers where we are all responsible for helping  
> each other as the equal owners of the project.
> As a new, or potentially new, member of the community you're going to  
> be only on the receiving side initially, but I will do everything I  
> can as I'm sure others will, to reach a hand down and pull you in  
> should you decide you want to be a part of this small but growing  
> community.
> We are truly in this together.
> Con mucho respeto y sinceridad,
> David
> Begin forwarded message:
>> Resent-From: <>
>> From: Alberto López <>
>> Date: February 12, 2009 4:08:00 AM PST
>> To:
>> Subject: Thank you for not supporting me in any way
>> Reply-To:
>> we were seriously considering adopting OpenEJB (we are a spanish  
>> government
>> agency) because we liked the concept, but this complete lack of  
>> feedback has
>> made our minds clear.
>> Cheers.
>> -- 
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