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From Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [+SPAM+]: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
Date Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:51:25 GMT
There's no other active development (new stuff) on ActiveMQ land other
than ActiveMQ Artemis.



Regardless... It is proving to be a strong broker..   I think you guys
would only gain by supporting it...

And we would welcome interaction.


This thread is a few months old.. so it's probably moot what I'm
saying here.. (I even saw a PR sent yesterday by Jonathan Gallimore..


I'm looking to make it easier for Tomee users to use Artemis. There's
a blog on how to do it.. but it seemed complex (even for me.. I can do
maybe once.. not always). maybe automate the process through a command
in Artemis? have it pre-integrated in Tomee? I'm not sure what are the
options.


On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:49 AM, COURTAULT Francois
<Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com> wrote:
> Hello Romain,
>
> Focusing on Active MQ future. Active MQ 6.0 was Appolo project (http://activemq.apache.org/new-features-in-60.html)
but this one has been unofficially declared dead in July 2015. Then it seems that Artemis
could become the next version of Active MQ.
> So the future of the underlying JMS TomEE  stuff is unclear :-(
>
> Best Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
> Sent: vendredi 3 mars 2017 14:35
> To: COURTAULT Francois <Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com>
> Cc: users@tomee.apache.org
> Subject: [+SPAM+]: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
>
> 2017-03-03 14:26 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois <
> Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com>:
>
>> Hello Romain,
>>
>>
>>
>> What are the JMS 2 features not supported in TomEE 7.x version ?
>>
>
> Few advanced programmatic API we can't access that easily but most of it should work.
>
>
>> It seems that the successor of ActiveMQ  is ActiveMQ Artemis: do you
>> plan to integrate this version in TomEE ?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Was ActiveMQ 5-next, now it is ActiveMQ 6. Think when Fuse got bought by redhat Artemis
got kind of abandonned even if not sure.
>
>
>> Best Regards.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* vendredi 3 mars 2017 14:12
>> *To:* COURTAULT Francois <Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com>
>> *Cc:* users@tomee.apache.org
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-03-03 14:07 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois <Francois.Courtault@gemalto.
>> com>:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> First, thanks for your feedbacks :-)
>>
>> Summary for the Full profile compliancy:
>>        - JMS 2 not implemented in ActiveMQ 5.x, right ? Do you know
>> when JMS 2.0 should be implemented in ActiveMQ  and in which version ?
>>
>>
>>
>> in AMQ 5 no but in TomEE we wrapped it to support several features
>> like JMSContext for instance, AMQ5 will never get it, AMQ 6 has it but
>> has few link with AMQ 5 (it is another project).
>>
>>
>>
>>        - JPA 2.1 not implemented by Open JPA in webprofile and plus
>> TomEE flavors but is implemented in Plume flavor thanks to EclipseLink
>> 6.3, right ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't think we use 6.3 but answering from memory but it is 2.1 yes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
>> Sent: vendredi 3 mars 2017 13:29
>> To: users@tomee.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> that's a bit more complicated
>>
>> - certification: implies legal process with oracle, we are not there
>> - EE 7 "compliance"/"support": think except JPA 2.1 with openjpa
>> distributions we target most of it - with some exceptions on JMS 2
>> with ActiveMQ 5.
>>
>>
>> To answer the original questions both spec s are in tomee plus and
>> concurrency utilities is in web profile too (cause used internally for
>> EJB @Asynchronous to make it simple). I'm not sure the point about
>> websocket which is in all version since tomcat has it.
>>
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog <
>> https://blog-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> | Old Blog <
>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github
>> <https://github.com/rmannibucau>
>> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | JavaEE Factory
>> | <
>> https://javaeefactory-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com>
>>
>>
>> 2017-03-03 13:19 GMT+01:00 Danilo Cominotti Marques
>> <dcominottim@gmail.com
>> >:
>>
>> > From what I understand, it is only OpenJPA (which is not JPA 2.1
>> > compliant yet, but rather 2.0) that is holding back the Java EE 7
>> > compliance. The OpenJPA 3.x series should fix that.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Yann Blazart
>> > <yann.blazart@bycode.fr>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hello.
>> > >
>> > > TomEE is not certified, but it's a full EE! More than weblogic
>> > > 12.2.1, trust me :)
>> > >
>> > > I imagine that certification process is complicated or cost a much.
>> > >
>> > > Le 3 mars 2017 12:45 PM, "COURTAULT Francois" <
>> > > Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com> a écrit :
>> > >
>> > > > Hello,
>> > > >
>> > > > If I refer to http://tomee.apache.org/comparison.html , it seems
>> > > > that, for TomEE 7.x, JBatch and Concurrency Utilities for EE are
>> > > > available
>> > even
>> > > > if those specifications aren't included in the Java EE Web
>> > > > Profile,
>> > > right ?
>> > > >
>> > > > *         JBatch is available in TomEE Plus, right ?
>> > > >
>> > > > *         Concurrency Utilities for EE is available in TomEE web
>> > profile,
>> > > > right ?
>> > > >
>> > > > In such case, we could say that TomEE Plus is more or less Java
>> > > > EE full profile compliant. As web socket in included in Tomcat,
>> > > > what are the missing specifications in TomEE Plus which prevent
>> > > > this version to not
>> > be
>> > > > Full profile compliant ?
>> > > >
>> > > > Best Regards.
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Clebert Suconic

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