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From Dave Birdsall <dave.birds...@esgyn.com>
Subject RE: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events
Date Tue, 04 Aug 2015 16:38:39 GMT
I am personally not willing to spend the time watching for spam.

Susan had this problem constantly with the old pre-Apache wiki; I'd prefer
not to spend my time relearning her lessons.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zeller@esgyn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:36 AM
To: dev <dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events

Hi,

It was me who suggested that we open up the wiki to contributions from
anyone who has an account.

Could we try to manage the spam somehow before going back to a stricter
permission model? To sign up for an account, there is something similar to a
Captcha, so it's not totally open. I'm not sure whether a user must confirm
their email address before being allowed to contribute.

If we get a couple of spam entries per real contribution from the outside, I
would think that's a price worth paying at this point. If it's much worse
than that, we would have to put the fence back up, which would be
unfortunate, IMHO.

I'm sure the Apache wiki already has some ways to deal with spam (e.g.
https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Preventing+and+Cleaning+Up+Spam).
Places like Wikipedia are much more open than even our current model, no
login is required at all, and yet they manage to deal with this issue.

Thanks,

Hans

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Suresh Subbiah <suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> Good catch. I suppose we have to go back to a model where only folks
> who have been granted privs can modify the page? Maybe everyone who is
> listed as contributor will be granted access? That way everyone
> working on the project has privs and others do not. It does prevent an
> intertested user of Traf. from improving a "how-to" page, but I don't see
> any alternatives.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It seems our events page in the wiki got misused to promote
> > something
> else
> > than events Trafodion community members are participating in. See below.
> >
> > Are we having a permission schema that is too liberal?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud-
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> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: rana mama (Confluence) <confluence@apache.org>
> > Date: Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:37 PM
> > Subject: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events
> > To: pierre.smits@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > <
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> >
> > Introduction
> >
> > This page outlines the future and past events contributors of the
> > Trafodion project will or have participated in.
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> >
> > Table of Contents indent 5px
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> >
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