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From Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Build failures
Date Tue, 01 Mar 2016 01:34:39 GMT
Either is good for me. Let me know. I'll add the .ai info to the
Contributor Guide.

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Steve Varnau <steve.varnau@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the info on "ai" format. It might be good to add info to the
> logo.md or wiki regarding it. The other image files show up nicely on
> github, but it does not know what to do with ai files.
>
> Regarding where to put image files, I think there are only 2 real options:
> 1) continue with putting it here in the source repo docs tree.
> 2) put them on wiki. There is versioning history there.
>
> Each apache project only gets one source repo. I don't think this qualifies
> as a sub-project. There is the incubator-trafodion-site repo, but that is
> just a publishing mechanism, not meant as a source control location. It is
> not mirrored to github, etc.
>
> As we've mentioned, there are pro/con with either answer.
>
> --Steve
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:43 PM
> > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Build failures
> >
> > Oops, Ken isn't on this DL. As it turns out, saving the .ai file in .svg
> > format doesn't work well since it messes up the font. So, I downloaded
> > Inkscape (free tool, GPL) to verify that it can import .ai files for
> > editing. That worked just fine even though I don't have the correct fonts
> > installed on my system.
> >
> > Conclusion: storing the logo source files in .ai format does not pose a
> > problem.
> >
> > However, I STRONGLY suggest a separate repository for these type of
> > objects. For example, the artwork used for the carousel on the front page
> > and upcoming presentation templates.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gunnar
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gunnar@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ken will have to answer that question since he provided the .ai files.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Steve Varnau <steve.varnau@esgyn.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I don't know much about working with graphics, so let me ask naïve
> > >> question.
> > >>
> > >> Is ai format an open format that will be useable by folks that don't
> > >> have
> > >> Adobe Illustrator?
> > >> Is there a more open format we could use? SVG?
> > >>
> > >> --Steve
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
> > >> > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:53 AM
> > >> > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > >> > Subject: Re: Build failures
> > >> >
> > >> > .ai files are source files for the logos, which are created in Adobe
> > >> > Illustrator (ai).
> > >> >
> > >> > As mentioned earlier, the source for artwork and other illustrations
> > >> need
> > >> > to live somewhere. If the source tree isn't the right place, then
I
> > >> > suggest
> > >> > the creation of a separate git repository to ensure that we don't
> > >> > lose
> > >> the
> > >> > source.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Steve Varnau
> > <steve.varnau@esgyn.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Several of the image files passed the checks.  Is there a reason
> > >> > > that
> > >> > > three
> > >> > > of them are in PDF ("ai" file suffix), rather than the .jpg and
> > >> > > .png
> > >> > > formats
> > >> > > the other files are in?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --Steve
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
> > >> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 8:09 PM
> > >> > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > >> > > > Subject: Re: Build failures
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I guess this is a question of whether we want the logo to
be
> > >> > > > under
> > >> > > > change
> > >> > > > control. The same question applies to other source files
used to
> > >> > > > create
> > >> > > > illustrations in manuals, presentations, etc. The source
has to
> > >> > > > be
> > >> > > > stored
> > >> > > > *somewhere* in order to ensure that illustrations can be
> > >> > > > recreated
> > >> and
> > >> > > > updated.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > If not requiring source control, then is a wiki really the
> > >> > > > correct
> > >> > > > place
> > >> > > > for this type of file. Or, is it better to create a separate
> > >> > > > source
> > >> > > > tree
> > >> > > > on
> > >> > > > git for this specific purpose?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Gunnar
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Steve Varnau <
> > >> steve.varnau@esgyn.com>
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > The current check for image files accepts these patterns
from
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > file
> > >> > > > > command: 'image|Image|icon|data|PC bitmap'
> > >> > > > > (usually ico, jpeg, png files). Also it checks that
any binary
> > >> files
> > >> > > are
> > >> > > > > small (< 180k).
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > If there is good reason to relax those constraints,
then this
> > >> > > > > is
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > place
> > >> > > > > to discuss.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > The reason to restrict binary files is that they live
in the
> > >> > > > > git
> > >> > > history
> > >> > > > > forever, even if later changed/deleted, and come with
any
> clone
> > >> > > > > of
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > source tree.  If there are larger binary files that
need to be
> > >> > > > > published,
> > >> > > > > then the wiki or other places might suffice.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --Steve
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > > > From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
> > >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 4:42 PM
> > >> > > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: Build failures
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > How do I check in the logo source?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Steve Varnau
<
> > >> > > steve.varnau@esgyn.com>
> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > You want to look at console of the sub-job:
> > >> > > > > > > https://jenkins.esgyn.com/job/static-checks/721/console
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > It's complaining that "ai" file type is showing
as PDF. It
> > >> > > > > > > is
> > >> > > > > > > not
> > >> > > on
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > list of file types we normally allow.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > --Steve
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > > > > > From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
> > >> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:36
PM
> > >> > > > > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > >> > > > > > > > Subject: Build failures
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Is something going on with the build
environment? I see
> > >> > > > > > > > several
> > >> > > > > failed
> > >> > > > > > > > builds at the same time?
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> https://jenkins.esgyn.com/job/Check-PR-master/462/console
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > --
> > >> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > >> > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you
think you can't
> > >> > > > > > > > you're
> > >> > > > > > > > right.*
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > --
> > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Gunnar
> > >> > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you
can't you're
> > >> > > > > > right.*
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --
> > >> > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Gunnar
> > >> > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're
> > >> > > > right.*
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> >
> > >> > Gunnar
> > >> > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gunnar
> > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gunnar
> > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Mime
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