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From "Jin, Jian (Seth)" <>
Subject RE: RE: Encourage Community
Date Mon, 14 Nov 2016 02:50:01 GMT
Hi Gunnar,

What do you mean exactly, sorry I cannot understand. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Gunnar Tapper [] 
Sent: 2016年11月14日 2:55
Subject: Re: RE: Encourage Community

Does anyone care to help with the word smithing? After that, we can move to translation.


On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 5:03 AM, Yang Yang <> wrote:

> One of the reasons to contribute in an open source project is to 
> invest in a potential winner and expect it to prevail SOON.
> Maybe we could drive the installation base more, to sell trafodion 
> really hard, even for free.
> Druid saw significant acceptance this year, by xiaomi, youku, and I 
> highly suspected wedian微店.
> This pattern of acceptance repeats itself with driud,kylin,hbase etc 
> in China. High profile tech leaders start using an open source 
> product, talk about it in conf. and their engr  contribute as their job.
> Volutary contributions by individuals may be less likely, at least not 
> before some high profile installation.
> so, Maybe we try harder to get more companies using it, even for free?
> Here are 2 links about Druid ref cases, sorry, in chinese.
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> Felix
> ---Original---
> From: "Liu, Ming (Ming)"<>
> Date: 2016/11/12 10:48:07
> To: ""<dev@trafodion.
> Subject: RE: Encourage Community
> +1 as well.
> Ming
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jin, Jian (Seth) []
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:09 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Encourage Community
> +1.
> Actually the Chinese users are active in a QQ Group, that is instant 
> message software, as I know some of them are not good at English, so 
> it is good idea that our community can answer questions in different languages.
> The same to the rest of world.
> Br,
> Seth
> Sent from mobile device, pls excuse any typo.
> 在 2016年11月12日,上午4:54,Eric Owhadi <> 写道:
> +1, good idea
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gunnar Tapper []
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 2:39 PM
> To:
> Subject: Encourage Community
> Hi,
> You might have noticed that there's a link to the "Geode/Trafodion 
> Elite Group" on QQ on the web page. This is to help Chinese speakers 
> engage in Chinese when not comfortable with communicating in English.
> I started a discussion on the incubator list on this topic, which 
> quickly included the members list, too. Talk about going big.
> As you know, the Apache mantra is "everything happens on the mail lists."
> That's no longer true but I still think that we need to encourage it.
> As a first step, I propose that we encourage people to ask questions 
> in their native language on the mailing lists (especially user) making 
> it clear that the Trafodion community has no problem with that since 
> we use a Translator to understand the question. I further propose that 
> we do respond in English as much as possible relying on the recipient 
> to use a Translator, too.
> If you agree on with this, then I'd like to add a new section to the 
> main page that describes the above in different languages. We'll 
> provide as many languages as we can even if 99.99% will be OK with 
> English if living in; for example, Sweden. It's more about the message...
> A starting point for word smithing and later translation (I can do the 
> translation to Swedish, I'm sure Hans can handle, Ming can do Chinese 
> and so on.)
> "You can communicate with the Trafodion community even if you are 
> uncomfortable with English. Just send an e-mail in your preferred 
> language to As a community, we use 
> translation software to help remove language barriers. Most often, we 
> respond in English so that you can use translation software, too."
> We might also provide a page that provides language-specific 
> instructions on how to join and leave our mailing lists.
> Thoughts?
> --
> Thanks,
> Gunnar
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*


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