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From Adam Lally <ala...@alum.rpi.edu>
Subject Re: Feedback requested on build approach and tooling
Date Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:31:32 GMT
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Marshall Schor <msa@schor.com> wrote:

> On 8/9/2010 5:22 PM, Adam Lally wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Marshall Schor <msa@schor.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Please post feedback on this build process - is this a good direction,
> and
> >> whether or not you are able to do builds!
> >>
> >>
> > I like some things about Maven, but the experience of using it has
> > definitely been frustrating.  Any time you try to do something out of the
> > ordinary, it is a real struggle.  I remember experiencing that
> frustration
> > when we first migrated out build to Maven, and now I've been seeing
> Marshall
> > go through it again.
> >
> > However, our previous build process wasn't so great either.  Our ant
> scripts
> > had grown organically until they were a mess that wasn't maintainable.
>  And
> > without maven to automatically download dependencies like Eclipse jars,
> in
> > order to build UIMA you had to manually obtain Eclipse (and a particular
> > version of it, too) and a couple of other dependencies, which was a pain.
> >
> > I think that I can work with what we have now, even if it's not ideal.  I
> > was able to do a build following the instructions, but it's very
> cumbersome
> > and I worry that it will discourage people from becoming involved in the
> > project.
>
> Was the cumbersome part doing the one-time-setups, or was it something
> afterwards, in doing the builds themselves?
>

Just the one-time setups.  I know it is only "one time", so it's not too bad
for a committer to have to do, but for someone who just wants to casually
poke around the UIMA code and maybe try to patch a small issue, it may turn
them off.

-Adam

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