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From Marshall Schor <...@schor.com>
Subject Re: Moving UIMA DUCC out of the sandbox?
Date Wed, 13 Apr 2016 17:30:20 GMT

I'm +1 for moving DUCC from the Sandbox - it certainly has had a lot of time and
energy invested in multiple releases, and has been getting quite a bit of use. 
I think the community would appreciate the validation of it being a regular project.

Re: formal voting - my view is that voting serves to catalyze consensus
building, and it's of course also there for legal reasons (for releases).  In
this case, it seems pretty obvious to me that there's consensus already around
moving it from the Sandbox to be a regular project; I think this is essentially
mostly an SVN move, plus some publicity when it happens (tweeting :-) , website
updating, news).

So, it's OK with me to proceed to move it in SVN.


On 4/11/2016 11:54 AM, Peter Klügl wrote:
> I think a formal vote with a special mail header and a 72h delay would
> be a good thing. If somebody has reasons against moving it, it is more
> likely that the vote is not missed and that there is enough time to react.
> Best,
> Peter
> Am 11.04.2016 um 17:32 schrieb Richard Eckart de Castilho:
>> Thanks Jerry,
>> DUCC is not an incubator project - it is a sub-project of Apache UIMA. 
>> My understanding that for the purposes of the ASF, DUCC is already an
>> integral part of the Apache UIMA project. That is reflected in the
>> fact that DUCC versions do not include the "incubator" marker that
>> ASF incubator projects have.
>> I believe moving the project from the sandbox spot in SVN to the
>> "regular" location is entirely our own decision - and that is all
>> that needs to be done.
>> On the website, DUCC is not even listed as part of the UIMA Sandbox
>> (https://uima.apache.org/sandbox.html) but it is rather advertised
>> as a proper part of UIMA under the "Scaleout Frameworks".
>> We can do a formal vote, but actually I think that based on the +1's we
>> have already and the fact that this is not an official ASF action,
>> you can simply move it.
>> @Marshall: what do you think?
>> Cheers,
>> -- Richard
>>> On 11.04.2016, at 17:26, Jaroslaw Cwiklik <uimaee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Richard, from what I read to graduate DUCC to UIMA subproject we need a
>>> formal vote:
>>> Graduation Approval Vote
>>> To graduate as a subproject, the Mentors
>>> <http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentor>
>>> should
>>> start a VOTE <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html> thread on
>>> the general
>>> list
>>> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/lists.html#general+at+incubator.apache.org>
>>> proposing
>>> that the IPMC
>>> <http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29>
>>> signs
>>> off the graduation of the podling as a subproject. This VOTEs should only
>>> be started once the project has VOTEd to accept the subproject.
>>> Perhaps we should wait until DUCC 2.1.0 is released. Looks like we are a
>>> few weeks away from the release candidate. After the release I can formally
>>> put DUCC graduation to a vote.
>>> Jerry
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jaroslaw Cwiklik <uimaee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> +1
>>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Peter Klügl <peter.kluegl@averbis.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> +1
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> Am 10.04.2016 um 01:11 schrieb Richard Eckart de Castilho:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> how about moving UIMA DUCC out of the sandbox and promoting it to
>>>>> same level as uimaFIT and RUTA?
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -- Richard

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