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From "Will Glass-Husain" <wgl...@forio.com>
Subject Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue
Date Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:13:12 GMT
Robin,

Haven't yet checked this out.

But your IT manager says "have to do more testing to see which
security grant it needs".  Actually, your error log shows this
clearly.  You need

java.lang.RuntimePermission accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core

WILL

On 10/12/06, Robin Mannering <robin_mannering75@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Will,
>
> Thanks for your help, let me know if there is anything I can do.
>
> I have a fear my hosting provider cannot commit the resources to solving
> this problem anytime soon.
>
> Thanks
> Robin
>
>
> >From: "Will Glass-Husain" <wglass@forio.com>
> >Reply-To: "Velocity Users List" <velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >To: "Velocity Users List" <velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >Subject: Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue
> >Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:59:38 -0700
> >
> >I'll play around with this.  Might be a day or so.
> >
> >On 10/11/06, Robin Mannering <robin_mannering75@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Sorry I forgot the velocity version: Velocity 1.4
> >>
> >> >From: "Will Glass-Husain" <wglass@forio.com>
> >> >Reply-To: "Velocity Users List" <velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> >To: "Velocity Users List" <velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> >Subject: Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue
> >> >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:54:51 -0700
> >> >
> >> >One more question.  What's your platform
> >> >-- version of Tomcat
> >> >-- version of JDK
> >> >-- Win, Linux, etc?
> >> >
> >> >(and to repeat the last email for redundancy)
> >> >-- VelocityServlet or VelocityViewServlet (with version)
> >> >
> >> >I run an instance of Tomcat with a security policy.  I've found
> >> >numerous inconsistencies even within Tomcat that require security
> >> >permissions to be opened up.  (There was a bug with the 4.1.x series
> >> >for example for which I had to open up something similar).
> >> >
> >> >I tend to think you've hit a Tomcat bug triggered by the way Velocity
> >> >accesses the request object.  Send the info back and we can dig into
> >> >this.
> >> >
> >> >WILL
> >> >
> >> >On 10/11/06, Robin Mannering <robin_mannering75@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>Sorry, some more logging that might make it clearer.
> >> >>
> >> >>My local machine uses request objects:
> >> >>org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteRequestFacade@1fd25ce
> >> >>and
> >> >>org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationHttpRequest@1e389b8
> >> >>
> >> >>Whereas the hosted server with the problem uses:
> >> >>org.apache.catalina.connector.RequestFacade@121d818
> >> >>and
> >> >>org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationHttpRequest@76f954
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Log 1 - From action class running on hosted server
> >> >>--------------------------------------------------
> >> >>11-Oct 17:52:49.647 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request = 'org.apache.catalina.connector.RequestFacade@121d818'
> >> >>11-Oct 17:52:49.648 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request.getContextPath() = ''
> >> >>11-Oct 17:52:49.648 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request.getMethod() = 'GET'
> >> >>11-Oct 17:52:49.649 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request.getSession().getId() =
> >>'28536F4542A222DC6F0E6DE23442DC6D'
> >> >>11-Oct 17:52:49.650 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request.getRequestURI() = '/test.htm'
> >> >>11-Oct 17:52:49.650 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request.getRequestURL() =
> >>'http://www.chaletexplorer.com/test.htm'
> >> >>11-Oct 17:52:49.651 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request.getServletPath() = '/test.htm'
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Log 2 - From VM Template/page running on hosted server
> >> >>------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>request = 'org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationHttpRequest@76f954'
> >> >>request.contextPath = '/'
> >> >>request.method = 'GET'
> >> >>request.session.id = '$request.session.id'
> >> >>request.requestURI = '//test.vm'
> >> >>request.requestURL = 'http://www.chaletexplorer.com//test.vm'
> >> >>request.servletPath = '/test.vm'
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Log 3 - From action class (running on my local machine)
> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >>12-Oct 00:10:17.516 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request =
> >>'org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteRequestFacade@1fd25ce'
> >> >>12-Oct 00:10:17.516 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request.getContextPath() = '/indy'
> >> >>12-Oct 00:10:17.516 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request.getMethod() = 'GET'
> >> >>12-Oct 00:10:17.516 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request.getSession().getId() =
> >>'79E50B9B3F25A2897BF420521952D51F'
> >> >>12-Oct 00:10:17.516 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request.getRequestURI() = '/indy/test.htm'
> >> >>12-Oct 00:10:17.532 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request.getRequestURL() = 'http://localhost:8080/indy/test.htm'
> >> >>12-Oct 00:10:17.532 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >>     | request.getServletPath() = '/test.htm'
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Log 4 - From VM Template/page (running on my local machine)
> >> >>-----------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>request = 'org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationHttpRequest@1e389b8'
> >> >>request.contextPath = '/indy'
> >> >>request.method = 'GET'
> >> >>request.session.id = '79E50B9B3F25A2897BF420521952D51F'
> >> >>request.requestURI = '/indy/test.vm'
> >> >>request.requestURL = 'http://localhost:8080/indy/test.htm'
> >> >>request.servletPath = '/test.vm'
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>--------------------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >From: "Robin Mannering" <robin_mannering75@hotmail.com>
> >> >> >Reply-To: "Velocity Users List" <velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> >> >To: velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
> >> >> >Subject: Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue
> >> >> >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:08:29 +0000
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Hi all,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Can anyone shed some light? I have some more facts now....
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The original problem was Velocity required permission on a core
> >>package
> >> >> >within catalina. Is this because it couldn't find the 'correct'
> >>request
> >> >> >object.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Here are some logs, the first is from a Struts action class,  the
> >>second
> >> >>is
> >> >> >output from the velocity template forwarded to immediately after
the
> >> >>action
> >> >> >class.  They refer to different request objects that ultimately
give
> >> >> >different values. Should the velocity template not also refer to
> >> >> >org.apache.catalina.connector.RequestFacade@121d818 ??
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Any help/clues would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Log 1 - From action class
> >> >> >----------------------------------
> >> >> >11-Oct 17:52:49.647 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >> >     | request =
> >>'org.apache.catalina.connector.RequestFacade@121d818'
> >> >> >11-Oct 17:52:49.648 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >> >     | request.getContextPath() = ''
> >> >> >11-Oct 17:52:49.648 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >> >     | request.getMethod() = 'GET'
> >> >> >11-Oct 17:52:49.649 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >> >     | request.getSession().getId() =
> >>'28536F4542A222DC6F0E6DE23442DC6D'
> >> >> >11-Oct 17:52:49.650 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >> >     | request.getRequestURI() = '/test.htm'
> >> >> >11-Oct 17:52:49.650 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >> >     | request.getRequestURL() =
> >> >>'http://www.chaletexplorer.com/test.htm'
> >> >> >11-Oct 17:52:49.651 |DEBUG|                TestAction.executeLogic
> >> >> >     | request.getServletPath() = '/test.htm'
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Log 2 - From VM Template/page
> >> >> >-----------------------------
> >> >> >request = 'org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationHttpRequest@76f954'
> >> >> >
> >> >> >request.contextPath = '/'
> >> >> >
> >> >> >request.method = 'GET'
> >> >> >
> >> >> >request.session.id = '$request.session.id'
> >> >> >
> >> >> >request.requestURI = '//test.vm'
> >> >> >
> >> >> >request.requestURL = 'http://www.chaletexplorer.com//test.vm'
> >> >> >
> >> >> >request.servletPath = '/test.vm'
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>From: "Will Glass-Husain" <wglass@forio.com>
> >> >> >>Reply-To: "Velocity Users List" <velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> >> >>To: "Velocity Users List" <velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> >> >>Subject: Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue
> >> >> >>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 06:25:35 -0700
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>I don't think it's Velocity which requires that permission,
I'm
> >> >> >>guessing it's the request object which is ultimately provided
by
> >> >> >>Tomcat...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>WILL
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>On 10/11/06, Robin Mannering <robin_mannering75@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> >> >> >>>Hi Will,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Thanks for the links, I'll give them a thorough read.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>I've been working with the hosting company who set up the
server
> >> >>config
> >> >> >>>and
> >> >> >>>they have give the application permission to
> >>org.apache.catalina.core
> >> >> >>>although they are troubled to do so.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>They seem very surprised that velocity requires this permission.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Since they granted the permission, the problem has cleared
up and
> >> >> >>>$request.contextPath now has a value within a velocity
template
> >> >>(although
> >> >> >>>this has changed from an empty value to '/' so I need to
make
> >>source
> >> >> >>>amendments.  Not a problem, just worrying it takes on a
new value
> >>in a
> >> >> >>>different hosting environment.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Thanks again for your help
> >> >> >>>Robin
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> >From: "Will Glass-Husain" <wglass@forio.com>
> >> >> >>> >Reply-To: "Velocity Users List"
> >><velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> >> >>> >To: "Velocity Users List" <velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> >> >>> >Subject: Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue
> >> >> >>> >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:04:32 -0700
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >What app server are you using?  This is a server configuration
> >> >>issue.
> >> >> >>> >If someone else set it up, you might also want to
work with them.
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >If you're using Tomcat, check out:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/security-manager-howto.html
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >And you should read the Sun docs at:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/security/permissions.html
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >WILL
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >On 10/10/06, Robin Mannering <robin_mannering75@hotmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >> >> >>> >>Hi Will,
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>thanks for your help. Sorry. I'm new to permissions,
could you
> >> >>explain
> >> >> >>>a
> >> >> >>> >>little more for me please.
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>Thanks
> >> >> >>> >>Robin
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >From: "Will Glass-Husain" <wglass@forio.com>
> >> >> >>> >> >Reply-To: "Velocity Users List"
> >> >><velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> >> >>> >> >To: "Velocity Users List" <velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> >> >>> >> >Subject: Re: Velocity Config/Security Issue
> >> >> >>> >> >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:24:57 -0700
> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >Looks like the security policy on your app
server needs to be
> >> >>tuned.
> >> >> >>> >> >Have you tried giving the permission
> >>java.lang.RuntimePermission
> >> >>for
> >> >> >>> >> >accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core?
> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >WILL
> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >On 10/10/06, Robin Mannering <robin_mannering75@hotmail.com>
> >> >>wrote:
> >> >> >>> >> >>Hi all,
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >>I'm new back on this list in a while,
please excuse if the
> >> >> >>>following
> >> >> >>> >> >>problem
> >> >> >>> >> >>is obvious/has been posted before.
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >>I am transferring an existing site based
on Struts/Velocity
> >>to a
> >> >> >>>new
> >> >> >>> >>web
> >> >> >>> >> >>hosting provider.  The application runs
smoothly on its
> >>current
> >> >> >>>host.
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >>However, there seems to be one last stumbling
block with the
> >>new
> >> >> >>>server
> >> >> >>> >>in
> >> >> >>> >> >>that the Struts object; 'request' appears
not to be in scope
> >> >>within
> >> >> >>> >> >>velocity
> >> >> >>> >> >>pages (there may be others not in scope).
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >>I'm using the VelocityLayoutServlet if
that helps.
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >>I've attached a snippet of the log file
that points to the
> >> >>problem
> >> >> >>>I
> >> >> >>> >> >>mentioned, notable the 'java.security.AccessControlException'
> >> >>and
> >> >> >>> >> >>'$request.contextPath is not a valid
reference'
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >>All other velocity directives appear
to be functioning as
> >> >>normal.
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >>Has anyone seen this behaviour before?
Any help would be
> >>greatly
> >> >> >>> >> >>appreciated.
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >>Kind regards
> >> >> >>> >> >>Robin
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >>10-Oct 02:45:21.752 |INFO |         
             [/].log
> >> >> >>> >> >>     |  Velocity   [info] ResourceManager
: found
> >> >> >>> >>/pages/frontend/home.vm
> >> >> >>> >> >>with loader
> >>org.apache.velocity.tools.view.servlet.WebappLoader
> >> >> >>> >> >>10-Oct 02:45:21.761 |INFO |         
             [/].log
> >> >> >>> >> >>     |  Velocity  [error] PROGRAMMER
ERROR :
> >>PropertyExector() :
> >> >> >>> >> >>java.security.AccessControlException:
access denied
> >> >> >>> >> >>(java.lang.RuntimePermission
> >> >> >>> >> >>accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core)
> >> >> >>> >> >>10-Oct 02:45:21.763 |INFO |         
             [/].log
> >> >> >>> >> >>     |  Velocity  [error] ASTIdentifier.execute()
:
> >>identifier =
> >> >> >>> >> >>contextPath
> >> >> >>> >> >>: java.security.AccessControlException:
access denied
> >> >> >>> >> >>(java.lang.RuntimePermission
> >> >> >>> >> >>accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core)
> >> >> >>> >> >>10-Oct 02:45:21.764 |INFO |         
             [/].log
> >> >> >>> >> >>     |  Velocity  [error] RHS of #set
statement is null.
> >>Context
> >> >> >>>will
> >> >> >>> >>not
> >> >> >>> >> >>be
> >> >> >>> >> >>modified. /pages/frontend/home.vm [line
9, column 1]
> >> >> >>> >> >>10-Oct 02:45:21.772 |INFO |         
             [/].log
> >> >> >>> >> >>     |  Velocity  [error] PROGRAMMER
ERROR :
> >>PropertyExector() :
> >> >> >>> >> >>java.security.AccessControlException:
access denied
> >> >> >>> >> >>(java.lang.RuntimePermission
> >> >> >>> >> >>accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core)
> >> >> >>> >> >>10-Oct 02:45:21.773 |INFO |         
             [/].log
> >> >> >>> >> >>     |  Velocity  [error] ASTIdentifier.execute()
:
> >>identifier =
> >> >> >>> >> >>contextPath
> >> >> >>> >> >>: java.security.AccessControlException:
access denied
> >> >> >>> >> >>(java.lang.RuntimePermission
> >> >> >>> >> >>accessClassInPackage.org.apache.catalina.core)
> >> >> >>> >> >>10-Oct 02:45:21.774 |INFO |         
             [/].log
> >> >> >>> >> >>     |  Velocity   [warn]
> >> >> >>> >> >>org.apache.velocity.runtime.exception.ReferenceException:
> >> >>reference
> >> >> >>>:
> >> >> >>> >> >>template = /pages/frontend/home.vm [line
32,column 34] :
> >> >> >>> >> >>$request.contextPath is not a valid reference.
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >>
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> >> >> >>> >> >wglass@forio.com
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