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Subject [Ws Wiki] Update of "Axis2/HackathonDec2005/chatlog" by DeepalJAID
Date Sat, 10 Dec 2005 02:30:04 GMT
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   [11:48]	dims: BUT the problem is for example synapse wants to add dyanmic services on the
fly?
  
   [11:49]	gdaniels: my preference is to make AxisConfiguration read/write, which makes building
in-memory versions,etc, very easy
+  	
+  [11:49]	gdaniels: dims: +1
+ 
+  [11:49]	Ajith: so basically even if you have several implementations the diff would only
be in the read write code
+ 
+  [11:49]	dims: argh!
+ 
+  [11:49]	gdaniels: then the individual instances can implement write operations in their
own way, even if they want to throw UnsupportedOperation
+ 
+  [11:49]	Deepal: my idea is there shoud be write capability some where
+ 
+  [11:49]	Deepal: it might be in AxisOCnfig or Context
+ 
+  [11:49]	gdaniels: Deepal: I sure hope so :)
+ 
+  [11:49]	Ajith: so we can push the read write code to a seperate builder/creator componet
+ 
+  [11:50]	dims: another trouble is how to notify the engine that the AxisConfig got updated
+ 
+  [11:50]	dims: (someone drops a aar in the FS)
+ 
+  [11:50]	Ajith: BTW my guess is 90% case we will read from the config rather than writing
from it
+ 
+  [11:50]	dblevins has joined
+ 
+  [11:50]	Chinthaka: sorry, confused you people a bit. I also like to have the second option
(I'm with Glen). But as far as the impl is concern, we can differ the way we should do it
still leaving some flexibility
+ 
+  [11:51]	gdaniels: That's up to the individual implementation, dims - and you shouldn't
need to "notify" it.... it just updates itself. :)
+ 
+  [11:51]	dims: ok, let's go for #2 then.
+ 
+  [11:51]	Ajith: ?
+ 
+  [11:51]	gdaniels: i.e. when the AxisConfiguration changes, that's all you need.  Oh, it
needs to recalc the handler chains, though.
+ 
+  [11:51]	dims: hoi dblevins
+ 
+  [11:51]	dims: exactly
+ 
+  [11:51]	Chinthaka: so, majority set for #2 ?
+ 
+  [11:51]	dblevins: dims: hi!
+ 
+  [11:51]	dims: with a notifier thing.
+ 
+  [11:52]	gdaniels: well, first let's make sure everyone understands everything.  If there
are more questions, let's discuss first.
+ 
+  [11:52]	gdaniels: then VOTE
+ 
+  [11:52]	gdaniels: is everyone OK on the differences/options?
+ 
+  [11:52]	Chinthaka: ok ...
+ 
+  [11:52]	dims: ok
+ 
+  [11:52]	Chinthaka: but I think we can't make a decision now ..
+ 
+  [11:53]	Chinthaka: better to put this in to the list
+ 
+  [11:53]	gdaniels: you think we should VOTE on the list, Chinthaka?
+ 
+  [11:53]	dims: we make a proposal to the list 
+ 
+  [11:53]	dims: we all should agree first :)
+ 
+  [11:53]	gdaniels: ok
+ 
+  [11:53]	gdaniels: let's do both
+ 
+  [11:53]	Chinthaka: are we agreed ? :)
+ 
+  [11:53]	gdaniels: quick vote between us here and then we'll inform the list what we talked
about
+ 
+  [11:53]	Chinthaka: me yes :)
+ 
+  [11:53]	dims: Let's do #2 (with minimal write?)
+ 
+  [11:54]	gdaniels: I think #2 as well
+ 
+  [11:55]	dims says it's getting real bad here outside my window
+ 
+  [11:56]	gdaniels: egads - I was just talking to Philippe about that... he was saying it's
just ridiculous snow
+ 
+  [11:57]	dims: decision made?
+ 
+  [11:57]	gdaniels: ok yes
+ 
-  	[15:12]	saminda_ has joined
+ [15:12]	saminda_ has joined
  
   	[15:12]	Deepal: hI we are back
  
@@ -373, +460 @@

  
   	[18:20]	paulfremantle: whats your opinion of the c/c++ issue
  
-  [11:49]	gdaniels: dims: +1
- 
-  [11:49]	Ajith: so basically even if you have several implementations the diff would only
be in the read write code
- 
-  [11:49]	dims: argh!
- 
-  [11:49]	gdaniels: then the individual instances can implement write operations in their
own way, even if they want to throw UnsupportedOperation
- 
-  [11:49]	Deepal: my idea is there shoud be write capability some where
- 
-  [11:49]	Deepal: it might be in AxisOCnfig or Context
- 
-  [11:49]	gdaniels: Deepal: I sure hope so :)
- 
-  [11:49]	Ajith: so we can push the read write code to a seperate builder/creator componet
- 
-  [11:50]	dims: another trouble is how to notify the engine that the AxisConfig got updated
- 
-  [11:50]	dims: (someone drops a aar in the FS)
- 
-  [11:50]	Ajith: BTW my guess is 90% case we will read from the config rather than writing
from it
- 
-  [11:50]	dblevins has joined
- 
-  [11:50]	Chinthaka: sorry, confused you people a bit. I also like to have the second option
(I'm with Glen). But as far as the impl is concern, we can differ the way we should do it
still leaving some flexibility
- 
-  [11:51]	gdaniels: That's up to the individual implementation, dims - and you shouldn't
need to "notify" it.... it just updates itself. :)
- 
-  [11:51]	dims: ok, let's go for #2 then.
- 
-  [11:51]	Ajith: ?
- 
-  [11:51]	gdaniels: i.e. when the AxisConfiguration changes, that's all you need.  Oh, it
needs to recalc the handler chains, though.
- 
-  [11:51]	dims: hoi dblevins
- 
-  [11:51]	dims: exactly
- 
-  [11:51]	Chinthaka: so, majority set for #2 ?
- 
-  [11:51]	dblevins: dims: hi!
- 
-  [11:51]	dims: with a notifier thing.
- 
-  [11:52]	gdaniels: well, first let's make sure everyone understands everything.  If there
are more questions, let's discuss first.
- 
-  [11:52]	gdaniels: then VOTE
- 
-  [11:52]	gdaniels: is everyone OK on the differences/options?
- 
-  [11:52]	Chinthaka: ok ...
- 
-  [11:52]	dims: ok
- 
-  [11:52]	Chinthaka: but I think we can't make a decision now ..
- 
-  [11:53]	Chinthaka: better to put this in to the list
- 
-  [11:53]	gdaniels: you think we should VOTE on the list, Chinthaka?
- 
-  [11:53]	dims: we make a proposal to the list 
- 
-  [11:53]	dims: we all should agree first :)
- 
-  [11:53]	gdaniels: ok
- 
-  [11:53]	gdaniels: let's do both
- 
-  [11:53]	Chinthaka: are we agreed ? :)
- 
-  [11:53]	gdaniels: quick vote between us here and then we'll inform the list what we talked
about
- 
-  [11:53]	Chinthaka: me yes :)
- 
-  [11:53]	dims: Let's do #2 (with minimal write?)
- 
-  [11:54]	gdaniels: I think #2 as well
- 
-  [11:55]	dims says it's getting real bad here outside my window
- 
-  [11:56]	gdaniels: egads - I was just talking to Philippe about that... he was saying it's
just ridiculous snow
- 
-  [11:57]	dims: decision made?
- 
-  [11:57]	gdaniels: ok yes
- 

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