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From Shane Curcuru <...@shanecurcuru.org>
Subject Re: Having a "Who uses X" page?
Date Thu, 27 Nov 2014 00:01:39 GMT
There are best practices that apply to all Apache projects:

  https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking

Projects are free to come up with their own ways of doing this kind of
thing; however it is important that the overall impression keeps within
the spirit of being an independently governed project.

We don't have a specific blurb of text to say "these companies use our
software, but aren't directly related to our project governance" or the
like - if people have suggestions we can consider them!

- Shane

On 11/26/14 11:54 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
> Hi, Jena (see below) just gathered some emails about who is using the
> software, and I thought this should be on the Jena website, considering the
> notes about marketing made at ApacheCon EU.
> 
> The issue is how to avoid the impression of endorsing these companies and
> make it clear that others can be added. I see other projects like Hadoop
> and Lucene have put these kind of lists in a wiki page rather than on the
> main pages.
> 
> is that the suggested best practice? What legal preamble is needed on such
> a page?
> 
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Stian Soiland-Reyes" <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
>> Date: 26 Nov 2014 16:46
>> Subject: Re: Jena / Stanbol success stories?
>> To: <users@jena.apache.org>
>> Cc:
>>
>>> Yes, a bigger preamble would be needed on top. I would not say it is
> frowned upon, what we can't say is that Jena is made by or for these
> companies.
>>>
>>> and perhaps only truly self-reported ones could be listed, e.g. exclude
> IBM and those Andy found out by looking at error messages.. ;)
>>>
>>> How other projects do this:
>>>
>>> http://hadoop.apache.org/#Who+Uses+Hadoop%3F
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30744222
>>>
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/PoweredBy
>>>
>>> So the trend is to put such a list in a separate wiki page so it is more
> obviously not endorsement and easier to see that you can add yourself.
>>>
>>> On 26 Nov 2014 16:22, "Rob Vesse" <rvesse@dotnetrdf.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Stian
>>>>
>>>> Putting up such a page is somewhat frowned upon at the ASF
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/responsibility#independent
>>>>
>>>> "Projects must not endorse or promote the work of third parties, nor
> allow
>>>> third party influence to affect the future of the project for specific
>>>> outside organisations."
>>>>
>>>> So we'd have to be very careful how we phrase things to not fall afoul
> of
>>>> this requirement.
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>> From:  Stian Soiland-Reyes <stain@apache.org>
>>>> Reply-To:  <users@jena.apache.org>
>>>> Date:  Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:44
>>>> To:  "users@jena.apache.org" <users@jena.apache.org>
>>>> Subject:  Re: Jena / Stanbol success stories?
>>>>
>>>>> I've summarized this thread so we can put it on the Jena website. (See
>>>>> attached diff from the CMS). It was mentioned on ApacheCon that Apache
>>>>> projects should be better on marketing - and this is great stuff that
> Jena
>>>>> should be proud of!
>>>>>
>>>>> Those reporting might want to double-check the text below.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what to call the page.. "Who uses Jena?"  "Users of Jena",
> "Jena in
>>>>> use" etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 November 2014 at 20:55, Milorad Tosic <mbtosic@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>>>>>> Our Semantic Linked Data management platform www.tasorone.com
>>>>>> <http://www.tasorone.com>  uses Jena's ARQ and offers Jena
TDB based
>>>>>> implementation as a default triplestore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,Milorad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       From: Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue.fan@gmail.com>
>>>>>>  To: users@jena.apache.org; dev@stanbol.apache.org
>>>>>>  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:19 AM
>>>>>>  Subject: Jena / Stanbol success stories?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, I was just wondering if anybody knows of, or is involved
> with,
>>>>>> any projects using Jena and/or Stanbol which (have been|can be)
>>>>>> discussed and cited publicly?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A local company that I've been talking to is interested in possibly
>>>>>> using SemWeb technology (specifically, Jena/Stanbol) internally,
but
>>>>>> are looking for some evidence to support the assertion that this
>>>>>> technology delivers and is "for real".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any pointers or references would be appreciated... or if you are
>>>>>> personally involved in something and are willing to talk about it
>>>>>> (possibly with appropriate NDAs, etc. in place), I'd love to talk
to
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes
>>>>>> Apache Taverna (incubating)
>>>>>> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>>>>
>>>>
> 


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