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From Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: JAM - JSR 175 under jakarta commons?
Date Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:52:21 GMT
Patrick,

Here's the use case....currently in Axis you can drop in a file with
extension .jws (which can by any java class) and we compile the class
and make it into a web service. We want to support 175 annotations in
these jws files....Is this doable with JAM?

thanks,
dims

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:16:03 -0700, Patrick Calahan <pcal@bea.com> wrote:
> 
> Right, I'm pretty familiar with 181 already.  As Dave Remy mentioned,
> 181 is based on 175 annotations, which will not even compile under 1.4.
> So, I'm not sure I understand how you are planning on providing any 181
> support under pre-1.5 JDKs.
> 
> The only thing I could imagine would be to define a set of javadoc tags
> that map to 181's 175 annotations.  This is a problem JAM was designed
> to solve for xbeans.   However, in the case of 181, I would have to
> wonder if it's really worth the trouble.
> 
> -p
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:45 PM
> To: Patrick Calahan
> Cc: xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org; dims@apache.org; Cliff Schmidt
> Subject: Re: JAM - JSR 175 under jakarta commons?
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> I have added a blog entry with my question/situation
> (http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/). Basically We need an attributes
> package for implementing JSR 181: Web Services Metadata. The caveat
> being we need at least some of the functionality of JSR 181 available
> on JDK 1.3/1.4 as well. That rules out APT which is only with JDK 1.5.
> "spin up a new project" with duplicate functionality is not new...we
> have commons-httpclient and commons-collections to do stuff already in
> JDK. So dont worry about that.
> 
> Can you please help us by reviewing JSR 181
> (http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/edr/jsr181/index.html) and
> help us decide if JAM will work for us?
> 
> Thanks,
> dims
> 
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:27:18 -0700, Patrick Calahan <pcal@bea.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi.  Sorry for the delayed response.  So, I think moving JAM to
> Jakarta
> > would be fine with everyone, but what we are trying to sort out is how
> > JAM relates to the APT tool which Sun recently announced for JDK 1.5:
> >
> >   http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/apt/index.html
> >
> > Have you guys had a chance to look at it?  Do you think it could meet
> > your needs instead?  It seems to have at least some overlap with JAM,
> > and we just want to make sure that we don't want to go off and spin up
> a
> > new project that doesn't provide any value-add over something that is
> > already going to be in the JDK.
> >
> > Having read over that document, I do have a few as-yet unanswered
> > questions about it:
> >
> > - Does it support both class and source files?
> >
> > - Do you have to let them drive?  AFAICT, you have to invoke the APT
> > command line tool; there doesn't seem to be an invocation API.
> >
> > - Can it be used for general-purpose reflection?  The docs say that it
> > can, but it's not clear to me how you do this, given that the
> callbacks
> > are keyed on annotations.  For example, I don't see how you would do
> > reflection on a class that has no annotations at all.
> >
> > This may be just my failure to understand the tool correctly, though.
> > I'm curious to know if you have more insight.
> >
> > -p
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:10 AM
> > To: xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org
> > Cc: Cliff Schmidt
> > Subject: Re: JAM - JSR 175 under jakarta commons?
> >
> > Usually silence means assent...looks like everyone agrees to move JAM
> > to Jakarta commons :) :)
> >
> > -- dims
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 10:58:40 -0400, Davanum Srinivas
> <davanum@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Patrick, Team,
> > >
> > > Looks like the JAM API still inside xmlbeans...Is there a plan to
> move
> > > it to say jakarta commons? we'd like to use JAM to help us with our
> > > JSR 181 Implementation.
> > > (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-dev&m=108573692307144&w=2).
> > > Specifically to be able to support JDK 1.4/(1.3?) and not just tiger
> > > (1.5).
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > dims
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> >
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