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From "Nuno Faria" <n...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt>
Subject Re: Batik and jdk1.1 (to Anthony)
Date Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:23:27 GMT
MessageBut when i install Jeode VM it comes with some java.awt and java2D classes. Are them
incomplete? I just can not display any Java2D interface in Pocket PC?

Nuno André Faria
SIG Lab, DI
Universidade do Minho
Braga, Portugal
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tangent 
  To: 'Batik Users' 
  Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:32 PM
  Subject: RE: Batik and jdk1.1 (to Anthony)


  Just wondering if there is anyway to write wrapper classes for all the drawing instructions
of Batik, so we can easily port it to other platforms or languages such as .NET in C# using
GDI+

  - Tangent
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Anthony Mills [mailto:amills@pyramid6.com] 
    Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:24 AM
    To: Batik Users
    Subject: RE: Batik and jdk1.1 (to Anthony)


    AFAIK, you can not run Batik on the Pocket PC.  SVGCanvas is not the problem and swing
is not the problem.  The problem is that Batik uses Java2D, and I know of no implementation
that will run on Pocket PC.  You would have to implement hundreds of classes like Rectangle2D,
Line2D, etc...  You can maybe get Batik to read SVG, but it will not be able to display the
image.  You may ask the developers if the rendering code is easy to rewrite, but I don't think
so.  It is the gvt (if I remember correctly) classes that will cause the most problems.  BTW,
even if you don't draw to the display, you still need Java2D internally.

    The only options I know that will work on a handheld is to replace Pocket PC.

    Anthony

      -----Original Message-----
       




       From: Nuno Faria [mailto:nasf@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt]
      Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:03 AM
      To: Batik Users
      Subject: Re: Batik and jdk1.1 (to Anthony)


      So, you are saying to me that is no away to run the batik modules in pocket pc?
      (look i'm not interested in run the SVGCanvas i can make another canvas without swing
if it's possible!!)

      Nuno André Faria
      SIG Lab, DI
      Universidade do Minho
      Braga, Portugal
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Jon Burgin 
        To: 'Batik Users' 
        Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:17 PM
        Subject: RE: Batik and jdk1.1


        Sure, but the problem is that no one could know correctly guess everyone's needs apriori.
 I know that IBM's MicroAge tool for developing on palm for power pc, automatically will create
a jar with just those classes that you reference.  I think they have support for pocketpc
too, but they don't really support swing.  If you want to do swing on PPC, you need Personal
Java and you have to modify it. I'll try to remember and get a link from home regarding this.
But here is another problem, you think these jars,are big?  Wait until you look at Swing,
which the JSVGCanvas depends on!  Not to mention that the StrongArm is no where near as powerful
as your desktop cpu.

        Well anyhow, email me if you want me to find that reference for you, and good luck
with you project.   :)
          -----Original Message-----
          From: Ricardo Trindade [mailto:Ricardo.Trindade@myrealbox.com]
          Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:57 AM
          To: 'Batik Users'
          Subject: RE: Batik and jdk1.1


          I'd say very painfull. for example, the Canvas is very nice for applets, but with
2Mb almost no one is going to use it that way...perhaps a small distribution would make sense...
            -----Original Message-----
            From: Jon Burgin [mailto:jburgin@onboard-software.com]
            Sent: quinta-feira, 18 de Abril de 2002 15:44
            To: 'Batik Users'
            Subject: RE: Batik and jdk1.1


            You don't need all the jar files, it would be possible (although a little painful)
to also strip down the jars just to those classes that you actually use.
              -----Original Message-----
              From: Ricardo Trindade [mailto:Ricardo.Trindade@myrealbox.com]
              Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:59 AM
              To: 'Batik Users'
              Subject: RE: Batik and jdk1.1


              regarding this, I noted that the full batik jars are 2Mb, so perhaps that's
a problem for pocket. is there any way to reduce the size of the batik distro ?

              thanks
                -----Original Message-----
                From: Michael Gale [mailto:michael.gale@bitflash.com]
                Sent: quinta-feira, 18 de Abril de 2002 14:37
                To: 'Batik Users'
                Subject: RE: Batik and jdk1.1


                Could you specify the core modules you are interested in using?

                Mike
                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: Nuno Faria [mailto:nasf@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt]
                  Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:00 AM
                  To: Batik Users
                  Subject: Batik and jdk1.1


                  Hi ppl,

                  Can use the batik core modules and low level modules with jdk1.1?
                  My purpose is to create a SVG Viewer for Pocket PCs and i only know the
Jeode Java virtual machine for Pocket PC and it only suports (i guess!) jdk1.1.
                  I appreciate all the help u can give to me namely if there is any newer
VM for pocket...
                  Thanks,

                  Nuno André Faria
                  SIG Lab, DI
                  Universidade do Minho
                  Braga, Portugal

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