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From Andrew Rowlands <a.rowla...@uq.edu.au>
Subject Re: getBBox values not consistent with Chrome
Date Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:33:24 GMT
I would go with Robert’s text to shape suggestion for this.  Converting text to paths is
the only reliable way to ensure the text will render as you expect across platforms.  This
also applies for certain functions that are not supported by some versions of browsers, e.g.
text on path.  Anything else will almost certainly not get the results you are after.  

Another way to do this (entirely depending on your application of course) is to do the manipulation
in javascript - BUT - this obviously requires that the end user is running a nice latest-version
browser with decent SVG support ;)


On 20 Nov 2013, at 5:22 am, Robert Marcano <robert@marcanoonline.com> wrote:

> On 11/19/2013 01:34 PM, kototama kototama wrote:
>> Yes I'm calculating before the creation of the SVG.
>> 
>> For solution 1), is there a standard function to do that?
> 
> Are you drawing to a Batik SVGGraphics2D? if true, use the Java2D APIs to do that:
> 
> TextLayout layout = new TextLayout("This is a string", font, frc);
> Shape shape = layout.getOutline(null); // null if no transformation is
> needed
> g.draw(shape);
> 
> SVGGraphics2D should probably have an API for enabling that, but I didn't find one
> 
> If you are using Batik GVT, I don't remember much about it but I remember that you can
get Java2D shapes from elements
> 
>> 
>> For solution 2), isn't Helvetica a browser font?
> 
> Browsers generally don't provide fonts (on Android some do because they need to embed
them because the OS only provides basic UI fonts), they do some mapping to the OS available
fonts. Someone that names a font Helvetica should try to provide the same metrics, on common
Linux distributions Helvetica is mapped to Nimbus Sans L, that apparently tries to do that.
> 
> Trying to draw pixel perfect fonts with SVG on browsers is like trying to draw pixel
perfect HTML text. There are many issues that can make your drawing not look the same, for
example differences in how the text layout code of the browser paint each glyph, if ligatures
are supported, etc.
> 
> But assuming the browser is using the exact same font you are using on Java (same computer
both tests), you can try using the viewbox attribute http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/coords.html#ViewBoxAttribute
. Everytime I get an SVG file that mixes pixel units and relative units like pt, in, cm, etc.
Everything looks distorted on other viewers/User Agents that use different base DPI values
> 
>> 
>> Also why the same fonts can have different metrics in different browsers?
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Robert Marcano
>> <robert@marcanoonline.com <mailto:robert@marcanoonline.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>    On 11/19/2013 12:44 PM, kototama kototama wrote:
>> 
>>        Hello,
>> 
>>        I'm calculating the bbox value of a group containing a rectangle to
>>        adapt its dimension to the text it contained.
>> 
>> 
>>    If the calculation is not dynamic, but done on Java before dumping
>>    the SVG XML, the problem may be related to the real font used. There
>>    is no guarantee that the UA displaying the SVG has the font, or the
>>    font has exactly the same metric that the one you used to calculate
>>    the sizes
>> 
>>    In an ideal world were everyone comply with the latest standard, you
>>    have a few options:
>> 
>>    1- Transform the text to shapes
>> 
>>       The infallible solution
>> 
>>    2- Make the font available to the browser using a browser supported
>>    font format
>> 
>>       Never tried this, but it could work for no complex western
>>    languages where laying out text hasn't complex rules
>> 
>>    2- Transform the font to a SVG Font
>> 
>>       Not all UA/browsers have support for SVG Fonts (Firefox hasn't,
>>    not sure about Chrome)
>> 
>>    3- User SVG flow elements
>> 
>>       Batik has some extensions for this, no standard, SVG 1.2 has
>>    proposal for that but there isn't any 1.2 compliant browser, and
>>    Batik isn't 1.2 compliant either
>> 
>> 
>>        The generated SVG looks like this:
>> 
>>        <g xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/__svg
>>        <http://www.w3.org/2000/svg>" class="rectangle-node" id="node3"
>>        transform="translate(200, 225)">
>>        <rect style=" fill: white;  stroke: black; " width="100.0"
>>        height="40.0"/>
>>        <text x="50" font-size="12px" y="20" style=" dominant-baseline:
>>        central;
>>        " font-family="helvetica" text-anchor="middle">Stuff</__text>
>>        </g>
>> 
>>        As you can see on the attached image this works well with Batik
>>        (on the
>>        right of the image) but the same SVG displayed in Chrome (on the
>>        left)
>>        is not correct. The text flows out of the rectangle.
>> 
>>        Why does this calculation is not renderer independent given the font
>>        size and font are specified?
>> 
>>        What kind of solution can I implement to solve this problem?
>> 
>> 
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