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From Manuel Mall ...@arcus.com.au>
Subject Re: FOP and right to left layouts
Date Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:57:27 GMT
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Regarding the Arial Unicode MS font file it is IMO not suitable for 
Apache purposes as it is only available to licensed users of Microsoft 
Office. I would be very surprised if it could be freely distributed. It 
is also very big (because it contains a glyph for every Unicode 2.1 
character) and even Microsoft recommends to use it only as a last 
resort (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q287247/) when no other fonts 
are available.

When I wrote r-l font I meant a font containing glyphs for r-l scripts.

Regards

Manuel

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 06:54 pm, mohamed salah wrote:
> <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>
> <P>Hello , <BR>Thanks for the reply, <BR>I will start familize my
> self reading the links you sent. And I will make a developement
> enviroment. I think his will take about 3 or&nbsp;4 days.<BR></P>
> <P>regarding your question:&nbsp; I think Arial font will be sutable
> for you. this is windows font. I used it to generate font metrics
> file. I do not know IF its licence agree with <FONT size=2>Apache
> license or not. <BR>What do you mean by "r-l font", I think r-l is
> not a proberity of font.</FONT></P><FONT size=2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
> <P><BR>Thanks,<BR>vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv<BR>Eng.
Mohamed
> Salah
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> href="mailto:engmohamedsalah@email.com">engmohamedsalah@email.com</A>
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> From: <I>Manuel Mall &lt;mm@arcus.com.au&gt;</I><BR>Reply-To:
> <I>fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org</I><BR>To:
> <I>fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org</I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: FOP
and
> right to left layouts</I><BR>Date: <I>Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:02:17
> +0800</I><BR>&gt;On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 09:20 pm, mohamed salah
> wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; Hello All,<BR>&gt; &gt; I would like
to offer my
> help in adding Right to left layout support<BR>&gt; &gt; to fop. I
> think I can help because this is my job in the 1st place. I<BR>&gt;
> &gt; work as a BIDI level 3 support in IBM Egypt.<BR>&gt; &gt; I can
> help in doing the following:<BR>&gt; &gt; 1- Provide BIDI knowlage
> base.<BR>&gt; &gt; 2- Perform Develpoment tasks<BR>&gt; &gt;
3-
> Perform testing tasks.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Great, all 3 forms of help
will
> be appreciated.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;May I suggest as starting
> points:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;1) If you haven't done so get a copy of the
> latest FOP version and<BR>&gt;establish yourself a development
> environment. Most of the relevant<BR>&gt;information for this is
> either on the FOP
> website:<BR>&gt;http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/<BR>&gt;or the
FOP
> WIKI: http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/FrontPage
> and<BR>&gt;especially
> http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/FOPIDESetupGuide.<BR>&gt;<BR>&
>gt;2) Familiarize yourself with the XSL-FO
> spec<BR>&gt;(http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-xsl-20011015/) especially
> with the<BR>&gt;section on
> BIDI<BR>&gt;(http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-xsl-20011015/slice5.html#s
>ection-N6720-Unicode-BIDI-Processing)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;3) There are
some
> thoughts on BIDI and FOP documented
> on<BR>&gt;http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/FOPWritingModesAndBi
>diDesign.<BR>&gt;You may want to check those.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;4)
Make
> yourself familiar with the FOP test system.
> See:<BR>&gt;http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/HowToCreateLayoutE
>ngineTests.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Come back, ask questions, make suggestions,
> document ideas on a WIKI<BR>&gt;page.... Its largely up to you how to
> proceed. But this mailing list is<BR>&gt;your best friend and don't
> hesitate to ask questions or for help.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I have a
> starting question for you: Is there a useable Arabic or
> Hebrew<BR>&gt;or any other r-l font around we can use under the
> Apache license for<BR>&gt;testing?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Thank
> you<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Manuel<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;
&gt; I gaind a lot of
> experiance in fop will using it to implement Arabic<BR>&gt; &gt;
> right to left PDF.<BR>&gt; &gt; I also want to suggest adding the
> support of adding implicit test to<BR>&gt; &gt; fop directly.<BR>&gt;
> &gt; ( Implicit test means characters as you type on the keyboard,
> for<BR>&gt; &gt; Arabic/Hebrew additional proccessing needs to be
> done. I want fop do<BR>&gt; &gt; this by him self)<BR>&gt;
> &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Wainting to hear from you.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;
> &gt; Thanks,<BR>&gt; &gt; vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv<BR>&gt;
> &gt; Eng. Mohamed Salah Sayed<BR>&gt; &gt; Computer and System
> Engineer<BR>&gt; &gt; eMail: engmohamedsalah@email.com<BR>&gt;
&gt;
> eMail: msayed@eg.ibm.com<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Tel:
> 0124075487<BR>&gt; &gt;
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