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From Chris Bowditch <bowditch_ch...@hotmail.com>
Subject Re: Different Page Layout every xx document sheet
Date Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:58:36 GMT
On 26/02/2012 16:01, Rob Sargent wrote:

Hi Rob,

> OK, you've convinced me that you cannot do what you're hoping to 
> accomplish in apache FOP.  You cannot have a zero-sized flow on a page 
> far as I know and that's what you would need to get the address only 
> on those pages (in some static region).

Actually it is possible for the flow to skip a page in Trunk anyway. 
Just make the region-body of one of the simple-page-masters reference a 
region that doesn't exist. Peter submitted a oatch last year for this 
that I committed a few weeks ago.


> This is not the "trick" I hinted at but might be a better solution 
> anyway.
> Make the pdf without worrying about the address page(s).
> Use iText to insert the address page(s) as necessary.
> I think your case would be quite straight forward:  Open the pdf in 
> iText and insert an address page after every 6th page of report data.
> We use iText to affect multiple flows.  We have static regions which 
> need a flow.  We make those pages in fop with the flow as the region 
> body, then use iText to overlay the two pages so it appears that there 
> are two separate two columns portions of the page.
> Now a printing house incapable of more the six pages or at least doing 
> the collating necessary to cover their shortcomings is another very 
> interesting question.
> On 02/26/2012 05:06 AM, Alexios Giotis wrote:
>> The number of "groups of seven" is not known in advance, it depends 
>> on the input data but the total number of pages will be less than 
>> 100. The use case is like this:
>> We are printing statements (transactional data) and each statement 
>> has a different number of pages depending on the customer. Each 
>> statement is enveloped and dispatched. The printing house has only 
>> one type of enveloping machine that can fit at most 6 sheets into an 
>> envelope. When a document is larger than 6 sheets, it is splited into 
>> envelopes and all of them are send to the same address. Each envelope 
>> has a 'window' in a predefined area where the address is printed. 
>> Therefore, on every 7th sheet we should print on an absolutely 
>> positioned area, the recipient address. Other than this, the flow of 
>> the content will continue from page to page.
>> Any XSL:FO suggestion, even if not elegant or not fully resolving 
>> this, is welcomed !
>> Alex Giotis
>> On Feb 26, 2012, at 5:43 AM, Rob Sargent wrote:
>>> Re-reading (and quite likely stilll not fully inderstanding) the 
>>> repeatable-page-master reference et al, I'm inclined to agree with 
>>> Luis.  If you know how many "groups of seven" you will be making, I 
>>> can give you a suggestion from something that is working for me.  It 
>>> amounts to making as many page references as needed.  Not elegant, 
>>> but for me it was critical.
>>> On 02/24/2012 04:22 PM, Luis Bernardo wrote:
>>>> I am afraid that this layout is not possible with the current FOP 
>>>> but I think it should be possible with a fully compliant 
>>>> implementation of FO, at least the way I understand it. In any 
>>>> case, I would like to be proven wrong...
>>>> The issue is with the first page of every 7th sheet. Maybe it would 
>>>> help if you explain how you intend to flow the content from page to 
>>>> page. When you are on page 12th and want to move to page 13th do 
>>>> you let the content flow or do you insert a break?
>>>> If you insert a break when you get to the first page of every 7th 
>>>> sheet then it may be possible. Because then it is like a book where 
>>>> you want each chapter to start on a odd page and you can use the 
>>>> blank-or-not-blank trait to achieve that. However that assumes you 
>>>> only insert breaks at the end of chapters, which in your case would 
>>>> be the end of every 6th sheet. If you want to insert a break at the 
>>>> end of every page then it will not work.
>>>> On 2/23/12 4:22 PM, Rob Sargent wrote:
>>>>> OK, then I believe you can define each needed simple-page-master: 
>>>>> first, second-sixth, seventh and make a page-sequence-master with 
>>>>> a repeatable-page-master-alternative with a reference to each of 
>>>>> the seven pages in the sequence. Not sure if the 2-6 can be in a 
>>>>> conditional-page-master-reference or not.
>>>>> On 02/23/2012 02:33 AM, Maria Manta wrote:
>>>>>> Hello and thank you for your quick answer!
>>>>>> Concerning your question:
>>>>>> Will you be addressing the static regions of the "seventh pages"

>>>>>> differently from one another.  In other words does e.g. 
>>>>>> region-before or page 13 get the same content as region-before on

>>>>>> page 25?
>>>>>> The answer is no, I will not be addressing them differently.
>>>>>> The regions-before will be the same for pages 13,25th etc.
>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>> Maria
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