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From Graham Charters <gchart...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Aries website outdated pages
Date Fri, 02 Aug 2013 08:41:41 GMT
As I suspected, still no sign of my docs :(


On 1 August 2013 17:04, David Bosschaert <david.bosschaert@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yep I (and others) had that too. I think it's probably an intermediate
> proxy problem.
> Try to view your page again tomorrow, it might be ok then...
>
> This should really be properly fixed though...
>
>
> On 1 August 2013 16:56, Graham Charters <gcharters@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've been having publish problems.  I created a page to document the
> > esa-maven-plugin [1] and updated the menu to link it in.  I've published
> it
> > on numerous occasions and sometimes it's appeared on the public site and
> > others it's gone.  Any thoughts?
> >
> > [1] http://aries.staging.apache.org/modules/esamavenpluginproject.html
> >
> >
> > On 10 July 2013 22:45, Jeremy Hughes <jpjhughes@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > OK forget that. Either my browser was playing up or the publish I just
> > > did for the July board report kicked it all into action.
> > >
> > > On 10 July 2013 22:38, Jeremy Hughes <jpjhughes@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi David, I was looking at the Aries home page and thought 'hang on
> > > > didn't David update this to refer to R5 a while back'. I can see your
> > > > changes on aries.staging.apache.org but not yet on aries.apache.org.
> > > > Did you hit th publish link? I ask this, because I have had problems
> > > > with the 'overview' directory recently and updates not getting
> > > > published properly.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Jeremy
> > > >
> > > > On 5 June 2013 11:10, David Bosschaert <david.bosschaert@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> I've made the changes as agreed. I didn't touch the release pages.
> > > Removed
> > > >> the javadoc, release notes pages and pointer to inactive Aries blog.
> > > >> I've also updated the 'programming model' page to be a more
> > > comprehensive
> > > >> (but high-level) list of technologies available in Aries:
> > > >> http://aries.apache.org/documentation/ariesprogrammingmodel.html
> > > >>
> > > >> Anyone: feel free to make additional changes...
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >>
> > > >> David
> > > >>
> > > >> On 4 June 2013 13:53, Jeremy Hughes <jpjhughes@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi David,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I made some comments and votes largely in line with what's been
> > > >>> discussed...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 4 June 2013 12:24, David Bosschaert <david.bosschaert@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >>> > On 28 May 2013 14:43, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org>
wrote:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> On May 27, 2013, at 10:18 AM, David Bosschaert <
> > > >>> david.bosschaert@gmail.com>
> > > >>> >> wrote:
> > > >>> >> > Downloads
> > > >>> >> > * This page was last updated for the 1.0.0 release
train and I
> > > wonder
> > > >>> >> > whether we need it. All this info is available in
Maven
> Central,
> > > can
> > > >>> we
> > > >>> >> not
> > > >>> >> > simply remove it?
> > > >>> >> > * Release notes. Since we are now supporting modular
releases,
> > do
> > > >>> central
> > > >>> >> > release notes make sense? I would simply remove
this page.
> > > >>> >> > * Archived releases - again, can we simply leverage
Maven
> > central
> > > for
> > > >>> >> this?
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> No for 1 and 3.  Per Apache policy, the releases must
be
> > > downloadable
> > > >>> from
> > > >>> >> the Apache mirror network and old releases available
from
> > > >>> >> archive.apache.org/dist.
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> > I didn't hear any objections to the other suggestions I made.
If
> > > nobody
> > > >>> > shouts soon I'll make the changes I outlined in my original
email
> > > (pasted
> > > >>> > below for reference) with the exception of the items pointed
out
> by
> > > Dan
> > > >>> > above.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Again - we can always add any of these pages back later if
we
> > want. I
> > > >>> just
> > > >>> > want to get rid of as much stuff that is blatantly out of
date...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Cheers,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > David
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > ----
> > > >>> > Original mail:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Hi all,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I had a quick browse through the Aries website and noticed
that
> > > there are
> > > >>> > quite a number of outdated pages. In some cases it was easy
to
> > > update the
> > > >>> > pages to more recent info (e.g. for the latest OSGi specs)
but in
> > > other
> > > >>> > cases I would propose the simply remove the outdated information.
> > If
> > > >>> > someone has the time to provide a replacement this can then
be
> done
> > > >>> later.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Here's what I found:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Documentation
> > > >>> > * Programming Model: The Application model has since been
> > superseded
> > > by
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> > standardised Subsystems. Proposal: remove Application bullets.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> +0. Would be good to keep it there but in a 'superceded' section.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > * Pointers to OSGi specs: I updated these to point to R5
(was
> 4.2).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> +1 to keeping this up to date.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > * Javadoc: this incomplete lists of modules points at old
> versions
> > > >>> (0.3). I
> > > >>> > would propose to delete this page as this info is available
in
> the
> > > >>> > published javadoc maven artefacts.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> +1
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Downloads
> > > >>> > * This page was last updated for the 1.0.0 release train
and I
> > wonder
> > > >>> > whether we need it. All this info is available in Maven Central,
> > can
> > > we
> > > >>> not
> > > >>> > simply remove it?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -1 Like Dan says, our releases must be available from
> > > >>> www.apache.org/dist and having a list of the releases is the best
> > way
> > > >>> of getting to them.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > * Release notes. Since we are now supporting modular releases,
do
> > > central
> > > >>> > release notes make sense? I would simply remove this page.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> +1. Each release should get a set of release notes in JIRA. It
> would
> > > >>> be nice to have this linked from the main downloads page.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > * Archived releases - again, can we simply leverage Maven
central
> > for
> > > >>> this?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -1 Like Dan say.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Community
> > > >>> > * Aries group blog - hasn't been active since 2010. Should
we
> > remove
> > > this
> > > >>> > link from the menu?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> +0
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I don't really have the time to completely polish up the
website
> > but
> > > I
> > > >>> > would be happy to make the above changes to ensure that the
> > obsolete
> > > info
> > > >>> > is gone.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Thoughts anyone?
> > > >>> > Cheers,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > David
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
>

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