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From Paul Angus <>
Subject RE: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel
Date Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:39:27 GMT
Personally, I agree with Nux, I could live without yet another communication medium that I
have to check. So I would prefer the searchable medium of the mailing lists with the fall
back of maybe Slack for group calls or chats if really required.   Given the worldwide time
zones we cover, real-time conversations are automatically going to exclude a large number
of people.  The conversation threading in email clients allows me to see the subject of a
conversation and decide if can or want to join in.
Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrija Panic <> 
Sent: 22 August 2019 19:28
To: Nux! <>
Cc: dev <>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

My whole idea is that having one (IRC) marketed on web pages, while using the other silently
(Slack) makes less than zero sense to me.

And, for me, a tool is a tool, I'm not married to it (some people prefer vi editor and have
religious attachments to it, I just use nano to get the job

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 19:49 Nux! <> wrote:

> I'm heavily against Slack or any other proprietary, closed solutions.
> I think it's a step back generally for the Internet at large and even 
> more so for an open source project; I can't reconcile the two in my 
> heart.
> Having said that, I believe the chat is dead not because it's IRC, but 
> because people prefer async comms (ie email). It'll be the same for 
> Slack.
> We should be promoting the mailing lists. They are active and the 
> archives are open to search engines etc and can further provide 
> helpful information to everyone.
> I won't -1 the decision, I don't want to be in the way of "progress", 
> but it's not a +1 either. I won't be using it.
> My 2p
> ---
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> On 2019-08-22 16:57, Andrija Panic wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel ( 
> > ) that we use atm, AND since 
> > there seems to be an official ASF slack channel at 
> >, I would like to open a discussion of the 
> > idea to "officially"  move (i.e.
> > marketing
> > this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack 
> > channel on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close 
> > for good) all others chat channels.
> >
> > i.e. on this year conference page ( 
> > we currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK 
> > it's pretty dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update 
> > this, so the users can be aware of "alive" chat channel
> >
> > Suggestions, opinions ?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Andrija Panić
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