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From Phil Steitz <>
Subject Re: [OT] The trick is to keep breathing
Date Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:38:39 GMT
Thanks for this, Alex. This is good stuff and very important for us all
to think about. The other day someone asked me why I work on apache
projects. My stock response used to be that I do this because I like to 
code and I want to "give back" something to the community who produce 
the great apache products that we all use.  This is all true, but does 
not explain the passion (and sometimes pain) and attachment that we all 
experience here. The code is like the food in a restaurant - a good 
reason to go there and drink ;-) And drink we do...Cheers!

Thanks again for sharing.


Alex Karasulu wrote:
> Hi all,
> I've been following some conversations on some private Apache mailing  
> lists recently regarding the "Apache Way" and have had conversations  
> with friends about it in passing.  Without disclosing the exact  
> conversations I'd like to make a few points.  These conversations  
> helped me to understand once again what we're all about in the end.   
> Sometimes we all get a bit stressed out about OSS and each other  
> because we're all passionate people and love what we do here.  It is  
> very important not to loose sight of each other as people.  Swimming  in 
> a sea of code is not what it's all about.
> A friend keeps quoting the following song in emails.  He does so I  
> think to relieve nervous tension that can result when we sometimes  rub 
> each other the wrong way.  Here are the lyrics:
> It's important to stop and take a breath.  Realize you have friends  and 
> people that appreciate you here at the ASF.  Realize the ASF is  not a 
> click but a group of living and breathing people that care  about one 
> another.  Flame wars and the occasional brushing of  personalities aside 
> this really is the case.
> Another friend said to me that it is important not to have a thick  skin 
> sometimes.  Yes be sensitive but confront any social tensions  openly 
> and sincerely.  Put feelings on the table and trust our  friends who 
> have this tight bond to do right by us.  That trust goes  a long way.
> I have found in my years now (wow) at the ASF true wealth is in the  
> quality of friendships and relationships I have had.  I know this all  
> sounds like a mushy touchy feely email but please try to look beyond  
> that.  To me, the people is what the Apache Way is about ... not just  
> the code.  I'm not putting down the code but the code is just a  
> substrate for a social phenomenon.  The code is a direct reflection  of 
> who we are in the purest sense.  Computer science is a misnomer,  
> writing code is really an art form.  So when we write code it is a  
> matter of self expression and we share that with each other under a  
> social context.  Who are we expressing our selves the most to?  In  the 
> end it is always about people.  Think about what it's like  without 
> having the people there to share and comment about your ideas  and means 
> of thinking.  The people bring the code to life.  They help  us learn 
> and improve.
> This is why community is at the forefront at the ASF.  This is why we  
> could not have graduated incubation with just the code.  I'm very  proud 
> of how this community has grown and the people involved in it.   It's 
> touching and a bit mushy but I don't care.  I have friends and a  light 
> skin but my strength is in trusting them knowing that I am not  error free.
> Let's remind ourselves when we stress out and perhaps rub each other  
> the wrong way that we're compadres first and foremost.  BTW I'm not  
> writing this email because of anything negative that happened nor am  I 
> anticipating it.  Just wanted to share in this repeated realization  
> that does not come all to often.
> Sincerely,
> Alex Karasulu

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