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From Emmanuel Lecharny <>
Subject Re: Result was : Re: [Vote] Accept Kai Zheng contribution (Haox) as a sub-project
Date Mon, 05 Jan 2015 11:13:31 GMT
You will not get any help from the ASF when ir comes to pick a name... As
it is virtually impossible to check in all the regions if the name is
already taken : we simply don't have the money/time/expertise to do that.

Le lundi 5 janvier 2015, Pierre Smits <> a écrit :

> It all has to do with the perception we want to create and instil. The ASF
> has brand power. The product can and should leverage that, but should also
> strengthen it.
> And we have to consider the trade mark issue. While some names might be
> easily registered in certain regions, some countries do have a first-come,
> first-serve policy.
> Maybe we should solicit the support of ASF Brand Mgt to help us out there?
> Regards,
> Pierre Smits
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>> wrote:
>> Le 04/01/15 16:23, Shawn McKinney a écrit :
>> > On 01/04/2015 03:28 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>> >> I believe hey are names for a different application area than
>> Authentication, Authorization and Security.
>> > +1 to that notion.
>> >
>> > On 01/04/2015 03:28 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:> And that is playing field
>> we deliver our solutions in. An area that is not only visited (worked in)
>> by developers, but also auditors and other kind of assessors. And these
>> persons don't get the inside jokes. They go for trustworthiness and
>> reliability. And when the name of the product doesn't instil that from the
>> start, it will have a steeper hill to climb.
>> > Pierre and I on the same page.
>> I do agree that kerby could be seen as a weaker solution than a full
>> kerberos server.
>> Now, the thing is to fine a name that is not 'funny', but is not already
>> taken. Really, when it comes to security, all the names that come to
>> mind (like safeguard, safhaus, etc) are already used.
>> Add to that we need a name that is easy to remember, and convey the
>> right message. Or not : we can find a 'boring' name which is easy to
>> remember, and is not at all linked to kerberos : car manufactorer does
>> that all the time for their car (even if sometime it's not really great
>> : Audi just advertise a new car called e-tron, which literally means
>> 'turd' in french ;-).
>> So let's start with some suggestion : what do you propose ?

Emmanuel Lécharny

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